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Old 12-04-2017, 04:46 AM   #91 (permalink)
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Gotta have to agree on that. Some irresponsible parents, not only blacks, give embarrassing names to their kids...







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Old 12-04-2017, 10:36 AM   #92 (permalink)
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I heard a radio ad where a woman said "My name is umm... Tamara. I know it is not a very `black' name."

Sure it is, Umtamara!
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Old 12-04-2017, 12:58 PM   #93 (permalink)
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Maybe the real problem is that it's seen as bad to be part of a minority group?
It's not that it's bad to be part of a minority group, it's bad to be seen as a possible liability to potential employers, who might not give a damn about your skin color or ethnic background, but do care about the possibility of being sued.

Case in point: I used to work for (well, several levels down the hierarchy :-)) a black guy, who's now a VP at one of the world's largest tech companies. His first name happens to be Mark. How far do you suppose he would have gotten if his parents had saddled him with a "black" name like say "DaMark", and the attitudes that go along with such names?

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I have an eastern-european name, is that irresponsible? Should I go to the courthouse and pay to get it changed to Natalie?
I don't know. Do eastern Europeans have a pattern of filing discrimination lawsuits &c? Or are they (as a group) seen as better educated and harder working than the average American? Maybe Natalie would have more opportunities if she changed her name to Natalya, and put on a little bit of an accent :-)

Understand that I'm not saying that these perceptions are right, either factually or ethically. I'm just saying that they do exist, and that sensible people need to recognize it.
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I always try to find patterns and rules, but it seems that people really are individuals. Do right-handed people gang up against lefties? Maybe? Do southpaws form their own cliques?

Maybe.

People have complained that the Army (and presumably the rest of the military) discriminates against people just because of their weight. What does that matter as long as they can do their job?

Soldier: Job description: Shoot, move, and communicate.

Can overweight Soldiers shoot as well as fit Soldiers? Maybe not from the prone position. Can they move as well as fit Soldiers? Not on foot. Can they communicate as well? Sure.
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Slow moving "targets" are easier to hit than fast moving "targets" (or so the USAF would have us believe).

You gotta "...feel the need for speed..."
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My ex was slow on her feet and awkward even though she wasn't remotely overweight. Perhaps if you care about how awkward/slow someone is, a better measure would be to measure how awkward/slow they are, rather than weight?
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There is also the two-mile run.

If two of your battle buddies were shot, which would you drag to safety first?

There are always stories of body builders that could not get hired by police departments because a table said they were overweight, but I never heard of that in the Army. Sure, we had a chart, but if you failed that, they taped you. I do not know how accurate that was, but it seemed adequate. I never heard complaints.

Let's say a skinny 5'0" Soldier made my life miserable and a 6'6" Captain America both get shot.

Weight is not everything.
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People have complained that the Army (and presumably the rest of the military) discriminates against people just because of their weight. What does that matter as long as they can do their job?
I thought discrimination is only possible for things you have no control over (sub-species, sex, age).
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What do you expect them to do about their weight?

Diet?

Exercise?

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We're assuming any of those are evil. I'd pick gluten since celiacs suffer a quiet hell. Meat's fine in moderation; maybe I'm not qualified to comment since I rarely have any meat cravings. My daughter's a southpaw so I can cast no aspersions; soy milk is glorious with amaranth cereal, but I hear it really taxes the soil.

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