"MPGiata" modding thread: aiming for 50 MPG with a 1990 Miata. Update: success, 55 MPG!
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You may have already seen my initial Miata thread, which documents the saga of buying and repairing this fun old turd bucket to make it road legal. Time for a fresh thread that focuses on the ecomodding! The car:
MPG potential: EPA says: 22 city / 28 highway / 24 combined AntiochOG did a 50 mpg fill using pulse & glide (but P&G is not my plan): 50 mpg! (1990 Mazda Miata) The top 3 Miatas in EM's garage:
The goal: 50 MPG (US) / 4.7 L/100 km, in my typical summer driving environment:
Results so far: 1) 37.5 mpg US = 6.1 L/100 km: first fill last year, cool autumn driving (10-15 C = 50-60 F) with no mods other than tire pressure; |
Mods
Completed mods:
(in no particular order) - MPGuino fuel economy computer http://ecomodder.com/forum/attachmen...1&d=1504021128- 50 PSI - zero-toe alignment - cleaned & regapped spark plugs (the gap was 0.010 wider than spec!) - air conditioning delete (removed components) http://ecomodder.com/forum/attachmen...1&d=1505940906- power steering delete (belt removed) - ignition timing advance http://ecomodder.com/forum/attachmen...1&d=1508874437- air dam, with... - partial grille block http://ecomodder.com/forum/attachmen...1&d=1505756110- half size radiator, and... - one of two factory cooling fans deleted http://ecomodder.com/forum/attachmen...1&d=1492450727 http://ecomodder.com/forum/attachmen...1&d=1492450727- smooth wheel discs http://ecomodder.com/forum/attachmen...1&d=1505497330- taller gearing (larger diameter rear wheels/tires) http://ecomodder.com/forum/attachmen...1&d=1505309221- side mirrors delete/relocated inside - LRR tires on the front, narrower than stock: 165/64R14 Dunlop Enasave http://ecomodder.com/forum/attachmen...1&d=1506615796- wiper delete - synthetic motor oil: 66% 5w30 + 33% 10w30 - weight reduction (goal: 100 lbs / 45 kg is attainable) - MAF / open loop AFR adjustment http://ecomodder.com/forum/attachmen...1&d=1508874484- synthetic lighter weight transmission oil (50% lightweight GM Syncromesh + synth 75w90) - synthetic differential oil - WAI - warm air intake (More info & pics to come.) Future mods: - engine kill switch (been using the key) - coolant/block heater - reduce disc brake drag (springs are missing; service calipers) - rear fender skirts - fairing ahead of rear tires - fairing behind rear wheels http://ecomodder.com/forum/attachmen...1&d=1507497234 http://ecomodder.com/forum/attachmen...1&d=1507497398 http://ecomodder.com/forum/attachmen...1&d=1507497516- fairing behind front wheels - belly pan - decklid extension/spoiler? http://ecomodder.com/forum/attachmen...1&d=1507754694- weight reduction: power steering pump delete - lower it a bit? Dream mods (but probably not) - targa style aero bodywork aft of the seats - mini boat tail! - ??? |
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possible parts car
My mechanic says he's buying a 1990 Miata for its drivetrain (to swap into an MG). The body is shot (rust).
He asked me: "Need any parts?" What stuff would you grab from an ecomodding angle? Off the top of my head, I couldn't think of anything. What stuff should I grab purely to have spare parts on hand? --- Edit: I need a driver's side sun visor! |
He's keeping the water pump, but the radiator is a possibility. I already replaced mine, though.
Unfortunately, the rear end was the same for all of this generation. A taller diff would be fantastic. Plus it'd let me run the slightly smaller diameter & narrower LRR tires on the back too. |
You should also be able to adjust the idle speed on that NA miata. The bros NB miata is too new for that. AND we can't adjust the ignition advance! Enjoy the adjustability of your old miata! His NB miata idles at 900-1000 rpm.
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That's an ambitious goal.
It needs to be aerodynamically perfect. The killer is the top down driving enjoyment. Maybe chop the windshield and add a metal tonneau cover and headrest fairing? That said, your list doesn't include a rear diverter. http://ecomodder.com/forum/member-fr...11-silver4.jpg For the rear wheel fairings, I like what I call the Bonnevette: http://ecomodder.com/forum/member-fr...bonnevette.jpg Starting just inside the tire they flair out to flush with the outer tire face at the back. Wheelwell turbulence is separated from the underbody flow and thrown outward into the ambient airstream. They would also form the outer fences of a diverter bell with a 4° angle roof. |
48!
Diverter bell!
--- 4th fill-up tonight: 48 MPG. :) [Correction! 49.9 mpg! -- see post #18] I would like to be able to cruise a little faster than I have been, though. Mods will continue! Average speed may (will probably) increase. And it looks like another week of warm weather coming, so the cold won't mess with my progress just yet. |
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i hope u will set the mixture somewhat leaner, as i suggested in the the other thread. u will love it, i promise. miatas running verry rich in open loop. |
Metro, see if you can get your hands on a 4.1 rear diff from a 94-99 car, it will lower your RPM by like 5%. They can be had for cheap. You may he able to trade someone for free who wants your 4.3 for track use.
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the early diff is smaller than the 1994 and later. you need a shorter prop shaft and 2 shorter drive shafts. additional are differences in the shafts because of VLSD and open diff at least. the bigger stuff is likely somewhat heavier.
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But I may fish around for someone else who wants to do the swap. Thanks to kurzer, now I know we would need to swap shafts as well. |
~50 MPG in sub/urban driving
I covered probably the longest stretch of sub/urban driving I've done with the car, so far. Let's say 6 miles / 10 km with 3 destinations (farthest first, like a good ecodriver!).
The car seems good for ~50 mpg with lots of engine-off coasting. Some hypermilers might call what I was doing "pulse & glide," though I didn't really do more than one pulse/glide cycle in between turns or stops, and there was normal top gear cruising in there as well. For context, keep in mind my driving environment: small, sleepy city, pretty light traffic, with fairly predictable lights, on mostly known routes. Also: nice, warm weather. |
I keep wondering what kind of fuel economy I am getting in this town. I just drive 1.4 miles to school and back and going there I can EoC one full mile. Would driving uphill be the pulse? :)
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Yes!
But it would be terrible anyway. Because cold engine! And cold everything else. (Speaking of temperature, is it still too hot and/or inconvenient to bike??) Now I'm curious to know what numbers you're actually getting on that long pulse & glide. I once did a 4,214 km long pulse! Airplane to the Azores. The glide: sailing back. :D |
It will probably be another month before I feel the need to fill up, although I honestly do not know. Gas is 25¢ cheaper fifty miles from here and it is on the way, so I stop there if I am low. I might fill up my five-gallon gas can on one of my trips in my Accord, but then I will not have any usable data! :)
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Correction: 49 mpg last fill
I just did the odometer correction on my last fill, adjusting distance to take into account the bigger rear wheels (calibrated against GPS & Google Maps). And the corrected number is:
49.9 MPG US = 4.7 L/100 km Soooo close. Should have done more mods! Never have I been so excited to almost get 50 MPG. In the Firefly, getting 50 mpg would indicate a major mechanical problem, or a boat anchor tied to rear bumper, or towing a camper trailer... |
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i learned in this time, that the OL is very, very rich, so i´m not suprised by your warm-up observation. without ethanol the cold start is fine. i have a -17°C cold start vid with 1 klick from 2012, but since 1 year it is at 4 klicks and runs well. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3lWdD1gshaY |
Ac no mo
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Weight reduction continues!
http://ecomodder.com/forum/attachmen...1&d=1505940906 The internet says the AC system weighs about 38 lbs / 17 kg. I didn't rip apart the dashboard to pull out the evaporator though, so let's call this 33 lbs. Also: not having the condensor in the nose will let my 1/2 size radiator work more efficiently because now it's got a front row seat for air flow. Hey, maybe I can reduce the cooling inlet size further... |
Bellmouth the radiator inlet.
The weight reduction and reduced inlet should be good for 0.1mpg. You'll have to adjust your goals upward. |
Metro, you sure do fill up a lot. Just how far are you going between fill-ups? and how is this going to mess with accuracy?
(I have taken to only believing a full tank worth...sure, I could make a single trip that might get 60mpg, but over-all I would only see 40 for that tank. That's too much like stacking the cards in my favor, just to see the results I want) |
Stubby: FYI, the car's fuel log is up to date.
Some have been short fills of a few hundred KM (smallest fill a result of wanting a "reset" so I could calibrate the newly installed MPGuino from full). All my fills this year have been at the same pump, and I top it off completely (until I see fuel in the filler neck). I'm pretty confident in the numbers. |
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Also: radiator efficiency is noticeably improved with the AC condensor out of the way! I need an adjustable grille block. |
MAF / open loop AFR adjustment
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My exhaust pipe is definitely very sooty. Running rich? Or just an old pipe with years of accumulation? The exhaust gas analysis is the best method to confirm - that will be next year's e-test for me. Tomorrow morning's "cold" start (~15C / 50 F) will determine if the adjustment (4 clicks) will affect open loop driveability. |
thinking out loud
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Off to a good start. What do you think about follows the side trim line forward to the door and then straight down? |
Props to you OP for having the composure to drive steadily and economically. I can't do that in my Miata :(
Regarding differentials and gearing, I installed a 3.9 differential in mine, while it originally came with a 4.1 (94 model, with the 1.8). The new diff is off a 10th anniversary NB model. The rev difference is not a lot but it makes for a tad quieter ride. In town however I used to drive almost everywhere in 5th gear, now I only use 5th above 40mph as if feels that I'm lugging the engine. If you could live without having the top down, you could invest in a hardtop plus a hardtop spoiler. The hardtop spoilers for the Miata seem to continue the slope of the hardtop nicely for aerodynamics. Later edit: About the soot on the tailpipe, as far as I know Miatas are tuned rich from the factory. If you want to get that out of the way, take a look at Speeduino, open source ECU. Cheap, already available with plugs for the Miata wiring harness and tunable with the same software as Megasquirt. You can also increase timing by rotating the cam angle sensor and see how that helps your mileage. |
Oh yea I forgot about adjusting timing! Definitely do this. Bump it to 12°. You can still run 87 (whatever the cheapest is) without pinging and it gives you about 5% economy.
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Oh and between my cleaning the ground connections and installing a heated O2 sensor, my tail pipe isn't quarter as sooty as it used to get. |
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A new O2 sensor would definitely help. There are reports of people who turbo Miatas and get better mileage if they keep out of boost, as the stock tune could be leaned out. |
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Heated o2 definitely helps. Worth doing, considering how cheap iit is. Typical gains on a aftermarket ECU wkth a completely stock engine are 10%, sometimes as high as 15%. |
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Yup: I've done the timing advance:
http://ecomodder.com/forum/attachmen...1&d=1508874437 And as of yesterday afternoon, the airflow meter spring adjustment as well: http://ecomodder.com/forum/attachmen...1&d=1508874484 Going right now to see how it affects a cold start... UPDATE: the car has always had a slight stumble/miss on cold starts that lasts 10-15 seconds (plug wires?). It was possibly slightly worse on this start-up, but not significantly. Could be my imagination. I'll leave the adjustment where it is. |
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What if you got a really good deal?! :D
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Heat wrapping the headers helps a lot with the above statement, but you lose warm up efficiency so...
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