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BabyDiesel 01-14-2016 12:32 PM

My life dream...
 
... is to be a professional bass fisherman on the Bassmaster Elite Series.

Sounds crazy right? I agree, it is crazy. So crazy that no one supports my desire to pursue this goal.

I'm venting, so y'all hold on...

My whole life, I have been good at many things and have had interest in many different subjects. From geology to history, meteorology, agriculture, soil science, astronomy, I have had many interest in my short life. But nothing that I deemed career worthy.

I recently graduated with my B.S. in Agriculture Education. I loved the people I went to school with, the school and the subjects... but I disliked the fact that I was even getting the degree. I tried to get out; parents would not let me. Told me I need to finish what I started. So I stuck it out and have a Bachelor's degree. In a field that I am burnt out in and have no desire to work in! I've done agriculture my whole life, and quite honestly, don't want anymore of it.

So now what? I have a huge amount of student debt from a degree that I resent on a level, and can't get a job in my field, and honestly don't want a job in my field. On top of that, I'm engaged and have to provided for my soon-to-be wife, which is a big amount of stress.

All these emotions and struggles are twisted and knotted up inside of me and it drains me daily. I look for what I truly can call my passion, besides God.

Enter in bass fishing. Lol.

From the time I have been young, there have been many things I have been good at, but hardly anything that I excel at. Bass fishing has, strangely, been one of the few things in my life that I can do well, and better than others, 90% of time. I remember wanting to do this SO badly when I was younger! It is all I wanted to do, and when I was able to go, I fished hard. I learned. I watched. I listened. I did everything I could to get better at catching these all-american fish.

At some point, I forgot this dream and decided to take a "safe" approach to life by going into agriculture, a place where I had spent my entire life. I mean, it seemed purely logical. Whether it was planted in my mind by family, I don't recall nor will say and assume they did.

And look where it has got me. Into a mess, and my life feels like:
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Lo and behold, my ex (who would have thought she'd still be able to help me?) shared a video on FaceBook a few days ago, and I just happened to see it. It was Jim Carey giving a speech at a college graduation. I was sucked in, and this part stuck out to me:
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What timing!

So I am at a crossroads in my life. Continue on my safe route of agriculture, dislike what I do and have just as much a chance at failing as following my dream of being an Elite Series Champion, or make steps to follow my said dream?

Whoever takes the time to read this, thank you for giving time to my life and it's troubles. Feel welcome to leave any wisdom, advice or positive correction for this now teary-eyed young man on the other end of a keyboard.

Blessings y'all :)

Fat Charlie 01-14-2016 12:49 PM

How much do you want to hate what you do, and do you want the safe money enough to subject yourself to that?

I don't make recommendations, and the only advice I like to give is to buy low and sell high. But some girl on the radio the other day said that freedom was just another word for nothin' left to lose.

BabyDiesel 01-14-2016 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Charlie (Post 504706)
How much do you want to hate what you do, and do you want the safe money enough to subject yourself to that?

I don't make recommendations, and the only advice I like to give is to buy low and sell high. But some girl on the radio the other day said that freedom was just another word for nothin' left to lose.

None at all! It seems absurd to wake up everyday and dread even getting out of the bed for work. To me, that will drag you down in other areas in your life, especially how a person would relate to their friends and family.

I like how that woman said that. That's real talk.

The_Jed 01-14-2016 01:12 PM

I walked away from my dream to provide for my growing family; I had my last sanctioned fight at 26 years of age and my girlfriend (now wife) who was 6 months pregnant at the time was my cut person/corner nurse. I lost. Then I took a long, objective look at what I was doing and where it would lead. I still have regrets once in a great while, but my pragmatic self knows I made the right decision.

You don't have to pigeonhole yourself into an agriculture related field, a degree opens all kinds of doors. There's a company called Flyin' Miata that semi-recently had a job opening for a sales/marketing/etc. position and one of the requirements was a degree. It didn't matter what kind, just A degree.

I've encountered this quite a few times. Maybe you could use that degree to land a great paying job with a predictable schedule then you could buy a boat and go fishing as often as possible. :)

jamesqf 01-14-2016 01:54 PM

So how have professional bass fishermen (sorry, but my mind's boggling a little at the idea that there even is such a thing) get a start in the business? I'd suspect they don't send out resumes to bass companies :-)

I'd give pretty good odds that those professional bass fisherman didn't just start out as that. You need to somehow figure out a workable path from where you are to where you want to be. And I'd bet that at least some of that path will have you working at jobs you really don't like, in order to get money &c needed for the next step. Mine sure did.

Maybe a start would be to type "how to become a professional bass fisherman" into Google's search box, and read some of the 80,700 hits. (Mind boggling again :-))

PS: And it's also a good idea to have a fallback plan, just in case you do everything right, but just aren't good enough to make it.

user removed 01-14-2016 03:01 PM

Your trade is agriculture.
Your profession is angler.

Practice your profession while mastering your trade.

Get a gov't job in agriculture where you are not doing the work yourself but helping others make their work more productive. Like hypermiling a farm.

Try your hand at competitive angling and see if you meet the grade. Meanwhile let life show you some fun and some sorrow and maybe everything will work out if you let it. If not change course and keep going forward.

regards
mech

BabyDiesel 01-14-2016 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by The_Jed (Post 504713)
I walked away from my dream to provide for my growing family; I had my last sanctioned fight at 26 years of age and my girlfriend (now wife) who was 6 months pregnant at the time was my cut person/corner nurse. I lost. Then I took a long, objective look at what I was doing and where it would lead. I still have regrets once in a great while, but my pragmatic self knows I made the right decision.

You don't have to pigeonhole yourself into an agriculture related field, a degree opens all kinds of doors. There's a company called Flyin' Miata that semi-recently had a job opening for a sales/marketing/etc. position and one of the requirements was a degree. It didn't matter what kind, just A degree.

I've encountered this quite a few times. Maybe you could use that degree to land a great paying job with a predictable schedule then you could buy a boat and go fishing as often as possible. :)

That is definitely one possibility that would be heaven sent :) I've got to figure out how to find a job such the one you listed! A man I know of, Mike Long, did that when he was gunning for the world record Largemouth Bass. Worked out pretty well, as he was able to log a lot of hours on the water and catch a 20-12 LMB.

One thing to mention is I am being pressured to get an agriculture related job from family and friends. So I don't "waste" my degree -_- which is absolute crap, but it is on me irregardless.

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Originally Posted by jamesqf (Post 504716)
So how have professional bass fishermen (sorry, but my mind's boggling a little at the idea that there even is such a thing) get a start in the business? I'd suspect they don't send out resumes to bass companies :-)

I'd give pretty good odds that those professional bass fisherman didn't just start out as that. You need to somehow figure out a workable path from where you are to where you want to be. And I'd bet that at least some of that path will have you working at jobs you really don't like, in order to get money &c needed for the next step. Mine sure did.

Maybe a start would be to type "how to become a professional bass fisherman" into Google's search box, and read some of the 80,700 hits. (Mind boggling again :-))

PS: And it's also a good idea to have a fallback plan, just in case you do everything right, but just aren't good enough to make it.

Check it out Mr. James --> Bassmaster:D

Oh no, they didn't just start out as pros. They had the passion and the vision first, which is what I have. They started in local bass clubs and worked their way through the ranks. I would have to do the same thing, it's just actually doing it is what seems so far out of reach!

I have a plan on how I can get to the Elite Series in probably 5-7 years. Just have to implement... and only I can do that.

Here is a good link for a how-to become a pro - 9 steps to going pro | Bassmaster

Also, I have a Bachelor's in Agriculture Education to fall back on ;) but I won't need it, because I am going to succeed. I am good enough :thumbup: Got to have the right attitude man, it's a big part of becoming successful in the professional curcuit! :)

BabyDiesel 01-14-2016 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Old Mechanic (Post 504721)
Your trade is agriculture.
Your profession is angler.

Practice your profession while mastering your trade.

Get a gov't job in agriculture where you are not doing the work yourself but helping others make their work more productive. Like hypermiling a farm.

Try your hand at competitive angling and see if you meet the grade. Meanwhile let life show you some fun and some sorrow and maybe everything will work out if you let it. If not change course and keep going forward.

regards
mech

Great advice Grandpa :thumbup:

I'm actively looking and seeking a job like you listed. I will try at my dream with all I've got, but will keep an open mind to what direction life is trying to take me. That's all I can do, I reckon.

The only reason I want to become a professional bass fisherman is because there is no such thing as professional hypermiler!

Now if y'all will excuse me, I need to go out and practice my profession :p

freebeard 01-14-2016 03:59 PM

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I like how that woman said that. That's real talk.
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The result of the sessions was the posthumously released Pearl (1971). It became the biggest-selling album of her career[29] and featured her biggest hit single, a cover of Kris Kristofferson's "Me and Bobby McGee." Kristofferson had been Joplin's lover in the spring of 1970.[45] In 2003, Pearl was ranked No. 122 on Rolling Stone magazine's list of the "500 Greatest Albums of All Time".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Janis_Joplin

jamesqf 01-14-2016 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by BabyDiesel (Post 504726)
Oh no, they didn't just start out as pros. They had the passion and the vision first, which is what I have. They started in local bass clubs...

And here I I've gone through a fairly-long life thinking that the point of fishing was a) recreation; and b) pan-frying :-)

redpoint5 01-15-2016 02:02 AM

I got 2 difference answers from 2 different guys who were SCUBA guides on an island. The first guy said he is living a dream doing what he loves for a job. The other guy said the job has ruined what used to be his favorite activity.

Just because you love to do something doesn't mean you want to make it your job. Think about all aspects of what it means to make a career out of your hobby.

user removed 01-15-2016 08:05 AM

My pole fishing times were overwhelmed by living in the Florida Keys, when spear fishing was fantastic and I learned to compare pole fishing to throwing a line and hook into a grocery store (pole fishing) versus walking in and picking out what you want (spear fishing).

Snorkel through a school of 40 Barracuda while stalking that huge red snapper that sells for $5 a pound at the local fish markets, to say nothing about the lobster! My cousin caught (with a bang stick) a 600 pound grouper. The local fish market would not buy the fish,so he parked his pickup out front and started giving people 20 pound chunks of that fish. It wasn't long before the market owner came out and bought the rest.

regards
mech

P-hack 01-15-2016 08:44 AM

I think we are in a slump where appreciating agriculture is concerned. Really there isn't a much more important job to have, yet the "city folk" are all self-absorbed, conceptualizing it as "flyover states" and "stupid rednecks" and really just taking it all for granted. Most of us push paper/electrons trying to play the game and think we are special, you actually have a profession with actual meaning, people get fed, instead of getting distracted by the latest widget or stupid culture wars or whatever other people do to make themselves feel important.

I have a lot of respect for agriculture.

Fat Charlie 01-15-2016 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by P-hack (Post 504800)
I have a lot of respect for agriculture.

I love gardening. Of course, I love driving and loved being in the Army. A big chunk of that love is not doing any of them as a full time job, much less as a career.

P-hack 01-15-2016 09:37 AM

my point is of course not what you "love" to do, but how the population (or population centers) affect our own perceptions regarding what is important.

oldtamiyaphile 01-15-2016 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by jamesqf (Post 504716)
So how have professional bass fishermen (sorry, but my mind's boggling a little at the idea that there even is such a thing) get a start in the business? I'd suspect they don't send out resumes to bass companies :-)

One of the great things about the USA is that you can be a professional just about anything.

You could even be a professional hypermiler (there are at least a few such people in the world working for OEMs). The other way would be to teach fleet drivers, probably from a how to be 'green' angle. Possibly could reach private drivers with something like "I'll teach you to reduce your fuel bill by XX% or your money back".

jamesqf 01-15-2016 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Old Tele man (Post 504806)
HOBBY - what you want to do daily forever.

I wouldn't go quite that far. I have a lot of "hobbies", but there isn't one of them I'd want to do 40 hours/week, 50 weeks per year.

pgfpro 01-15-2016 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Old Mechanic (Post 504721)
Your trade is agriculture.
Your profession is angler.

Practice your profession while mastering your trade.

Get a gov't job in agriculture where you are not doing the work yourself but helping others make their work more productive. Like hypermiling a farm.

Try your hand at competitive angling and see if you meet the grade. Meanwhile let life show you some fun and some sorrow and maybe everything will work out if you let it. If not change course and keep going forward.

regards
mech

I like Mech post.
My background when I was your age BD. i work at Inland Mattress and built mattress and box springs. I hated it after about two years. At that time my life long dream was to restore muscle cars. So I learned Auto Body and Paint from one friend and engine and transmission building from another. I started out restoring a few cars after hours and weekends, then i went full time on my own and did that for about 8 years. In the beginning I was living my dream
but about 5 years into it I started hating it!!!
To this day i still have a ton of people wanting me to restore their cars and I tell it will never happen. I'm burned out big time, and can't stand car shows or anything to do with muscle cars. Its sad because its something that comes very easy to me but I just can't stomach it anymore. Looking back if I would have done it part time I probably would still be doing it and enjoying it.

So keep in mind your job is just a job that makes $$$ to maintain life. Your hobby or passion type job should be a profession that you control how many hours and how much energy you put into it.

vskid3 01-15-2016 08:21 PM

Does your soon-to-be wife have a job? In my opinion, your first priority should be providing for the two of you. If she can do that, you're freed up to pursue your dream. If you're expected to be the primary provider for whatever reason, I would suggest getting a job that pays the bills now and work towards your dream in your free time.

Frank Lee 01-15-2016 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by P-hack (Post 504810)
my point is of course not what you "love" to do, but how the population (or population centers) affect our own perceptions regarding what is important.

Obviously the most important things humans can do are chasing balls. Nothing garners more energy, investment, debate, adulation, and obsession than the worship of ball chasers.

pgfpro: That was my theory too- if you choose what you love to do as a profession it could ruin it by becoming the daily grind. So I sought to design vehicles as my "daily grind" and fly airplanes for fun.

Well, that didn't work out in the long run but it was fun for a while. Now my hopes and dreams are simply that people leave me the &&&& alone. :/

JRMichler 01-16-2016 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by BabyDiesel (Post 504712)
It seems absurd to wake up everyday and dread even getting out of the bed for work.

There is a time and place for this. It's when you really NEED to work one or two more years until you can afford to retire. Anybody younger than that who dreads going to work should be putting as much effort into job hunting as if he was unemployed.

A friend once had thoughts of becoming a professional fisherman after he won a $14,000 boat in a fishing tournament. So he spent a summer working tournaments while keeping his day job. He gave up the idea after seeing how many of the professional fishermen were sleeping in the backs of their cars because they could not afford motel rooms.

Fat Charlie 01-16-2016 07:36 PM

The dream all depends on how you're able to set it up, and just what part of the dream you want to be in: just because you love a field doesn't mean you would love owning and managing a business.

I've got a cousin who is a chef. Do you think he wants to open a restaurant? Nope. He had to learn enough of the ownership and management end of the business that he knows he "just" wants to be a chef. He's in a good situation where he has the control he wants and doesn't have to worry about the rest- and he loves it.

Xist 01-24-2016 03:09 PM

Pgfpro, can you rebuild my mattress? I am trying to hypermile it! :)

I have been dating the current silly girl that I am seeing for three months now. Soon after we met, she asked if I would consider being a stay-at-home dad.

We have similar jobs. We make the same amount an hour. I am trying to get into grad school so that I can make much more money. She keeps looking for a second job that would not pay as well as her first one.

She says that I am stubborn for not driving faster.

I hope that you are able to find something satisfying. Good luck!

BabyDiesel 01-30-2016 08:19 PM

Thanks to all of y'all for the wisdom and words that have been dropped here! I truly appreciate it!

I got a job in Pest Control, so I am busy busy with that right now. Do I want to make it my life-long profession? Oh no! But it is bringing money in now and that is important to getting me where I want to be!

I had a plan, but the fiance was not going to have any part of it. Said she was not going to be with a pro bass fisherman and live that life, staying at home taking care of kids while I'm gone for 5-6 months. So this dream is on the back burner now because I chose her over myself... it wasn't an easy choice. She did say that I can do it later in life (like 10-20 years), so I have that much to look forward too

Fat Charlie 02-01-2016 08:34 AM

You didn't choose her over yourself, you chose her for yourself.

You decided that a life with her was worth more to you than an attempt to make competitive fishing a paying proposition in the immediate future. And she probably wasn't trying to make you choose between her and fishing- she probably felt that a straight job right now would probably benefit the family more.

From a hypermiling perspective, it's time for the pulse. Pulse hard to get to your glide. :D

RustyLugNut 02-01-2016 04:38 PM

Wisdom.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Charlie (Post 506152)
You didn't choose her over yourself, you chose her for yourself.

You decided that a life with her was worth more to you than an attempt to make competitive fishing a paying proposition in the immediate future. And she probably wasn't trying to make you choose between her and fishing- she probably felt that a straight job right now would probably benefit the family more.

From a hypermiling perspective, it's time for the pulse. Pulse hard to get to your glide. :D

Life lessons found in hypermiling.

ME_Andy 02-01-2016 09:47 PM

Try to look at the bright side while job hunting! That's my only advice. Don't let your performance at the current job suffer.

ksa8907 02-02-2016 05:26 AM

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Originally Posted by redpoint5 (Post 504776)
I got 2 difference answers from 2 different guys who were SCUBA guides on an island. The first guy said he is living a dream doing what he loves for a job. The other guy said the job has ruined what used to be his favorite activity.

Just because you love to do something doesn't mean you want to make it your job. Think about all aspects of what it means to make a career out of your hobby.


My brother in law sells season tickets for proffessional sports teams. He swore he would never sell for major league baseball because it would ruin it for him.

Any chance you could spin that degree into a vegetation management position? There are a great many jobs/careers that have no specific degree requirements.

JRMichler 02-06-2016 08:11 PM

There is also a compromise solution. Enter any bass tournaments where you can drive there and back in one weekend. With a travel trailer, it could also be a family vacation weekend.

Fat Charlie 02-07-2016 09:01 AM

I don't recommend camping until any kids are older- camping with a baby while hubby's fishing is more work than just staying home with the baby.


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