Go Back   EcoModder Forum > EcoModding > Fossil Fuel Free
Register Now
 Register Now
 

Reply  Post New Thread
 
Submit Tools LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 01-20-2017, 05:10 PM   #1 (permalink)
EcoModding Lurker
 
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: Ireland
Posts: 12
Thanks: 0
Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts
Question Ev homemade battery

Dia duit
I have been researching ev batteries and was thinking of building my own zinc prototype heavy duty Chrolide battery with active recycling has anybody built this prototype that gulf and western built in the 1970 80 years
Over

  Reply With Quote
Alt Today
Popular topics

Other popular topics in this forum...

   
Old 01-20-2017, 06:25 PM   #2 (permalink)
EcoModding Lurker
 
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: Ireland
Posts: 12
Thanks: 0
Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts
Dia duit
I have finished the zinc air battery decided to go with that as we have one of the biggest zinc mines in the world here in ireland got 1.5 volts going to see if I can post a picture of battery not great with fancy phones I want to get to around 177 volts with good amp hrs I have a old DC welders with a few modifications done for recharging the pack in 42 minutes from flat
  Reply With Quote
Old 01-20-2017, 09:59 PM   #3 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
Stubby79's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Victoria, BC
Posts: 1,747

Firefly EV - '98 Pontiac Firefly EV
90 day: 107.65 mpg (US)

Little Boy Blue - '05 Toyota Echo
90 day: 33.35 mpg (US)

BlueZ - '19 Nissan 370Z Sport
90 day: 17.19 mpg (US)
Thanks: 75
Thanked 576 Times in 426 Posts
I don't know much about zink batteries. What kind of watt-hour per KG are we talking about? How deep can they be cycled? how many cycles will they put out? What level of peukert effect do they have, if any?

Then...how will you manage to mass produce them to all be equal to one another, so they stay balanced? Or is that even an issue with this chemistry?
  Reply With Quote
Old 01-20-2017, 10:22 PM   #4 (permalink)
Corporate imperialist
 
oil pan 4's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: NewMexico (USA)
Posts: 11,181

Sub - '84 Chevy Diesel Suburban C10
SUV
90 day: 19.5 mpg (US)

camaro - '85 Chevy Camaro Z28

Riot - '03 Kia Rio POS
Team Hyundai
90 day: 30.21 mpg (US)

Bug - '01 VW Beetle GLSturbo
90 day: 26.43 mpg (US)

Sub2500 - '86 GMC Suburban C2500
90 day: 11.95 mpg (US)

Snow flake - '11 Nissan Leaf SL
SUV
90 day: 141.63 mpg (US)
Thanks: 270
Thanked 3,524 Times in 2,798 Posts
Zinc air batteries don't recharge.
__________________
1984 chevy suburban, custom made 6.5L diesel turbocharged with a Garrett T76 and Holset HE351VE, 22:1 compression 13psi of intercooled boost.
1989 firebird mostly stock. Aside from the 6-speed manual trans, corvette gen 5 front brakes, 1LE drive shaft, 4th Gen disc brake fbody rear end.
2011 leaf SL, white, portable 240v CHAdeMO, trailer hitch, new batt as of 2014.
  Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to oil pan 4 For This Useful Post:
Ryland (01-22-2017)
Old 01-20-2017, 10:28 PM   #5 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
Stubby79's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Victoria, BC
Posts: 1,747

Firefly EV - '98 Pontiac Firefly EV
90 day: 107.65 mpg (US)

Little Boy Blue - '05 Toyota Echo
90 day: 33.35 mpg (US)

BlueZ - '19 Nissan 370Z Sport
90 day: 17.19 mpg (US)
Thanks: 75
Thanked 576 Times in 426 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by oil pan 4 View Post
Zinc air batteries don't recharge.
Well...that's rather pointless!
  Reply With Quote
Old 01-21-2017, 06:52 AM   #6 (permalink)
EcoModding Lurker
 
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: Ireland
Posts: 12
Thanks: 0
Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts
Dia duit oil pan 4
I have managed to get my zinc air battery to recharge I think it is a problem if you let the tree like structures form between cathode and anodes I used a sponge like material and put in a jet to inject a small amount of dry nitrogen this seems to stop it forming when recharging I will put up some photogragh of final set up I want to get at least 270 miles between charging I plan to fit 23 HP diesel hooked up to DC generator to keep pack above minium discharge we have fast DC chargers for free in Ireland so hopefully never have to start engine
  Reply With Quote
Old 01-21-2017, 12:17 PM   #7 (permalink)
Corporate imperialist
 
oil pan 4's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: NewMexico (USA)
Posts: 11,181

Sub - '84 Chevy Diesel Suburban C10
SUV
90 day: 19.5 mpg (US)

camaro - '85 Chevy Camaro Z28

Riot - '03 Kia Rio POS
Team Hyundai
90 day: 30.21 mpg (US)

Bug - '01 VW Beetle GLSturbo
90 day: 26.43 mpg (US)

Sub2500 - '86 GMC Suburban C2500
90 day: 11.95 mpg (US)

Snow flake - '11 Nissan Leaf SL
SUV
90 day: 141.63 mpg (US)
Thanks: 270
Thanked 3,524 Times in 2,798 Posts
How many times will it recharge?
__________________
1984 chevy suburban, custom made 6.5L diesel turbocharged with a Garrett T76 and Holset HE351VE, 22:1 compression 13psi of intercooled boost.
1989 firebird mostly stock. Aside from the 6-speed manual trans, corvette gen 5 front brakes, 1LE drive shaft, 4th Gen disc brake fbody rear end.
2011 leaf SL, white, portable 240v CHAdeMO, trailer hitch, new batt as of 2014.
  Reply With Quote
Old 01-21-2017, 07:15 PM   #8 (permalink)
home of the odd vehicles
 
rmay635703's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Somewhere in WI
Posts: 3,882

Silver - '10 Chevy Cobalt XFE
Thanks: 500
Thanked 865 Times in 652 Posts
WTF ?????

I think I missed something here
  Reply With Quote
Old 01-22-2017, 10:38 AM   #9 (permalink)
EcoModding Lurker
 
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: Ireland
Posts: 12
Thanks: 0
Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts
Dia duit oil pan 4
I think I should take time to explain my battery design and reason for trying to manufacture a homebuilt battery research says zinc is a widely abundant metal now compare that to lithium it is nearly all comes from China mines and is very expensive when deciding on my build I looked at my home island of Ireland and worked out there was plenty of zinc so future volume production could be sourced here instead of importing expensive batteries materials from overseas I think there are plenty of zinc mines in Amerikay also now my build is a prototype I have drained it 101 times so far running a set of bulbs to drain power it is a 8 cell unit 12volt 8 cells at 1.5 volts linked in a series it's rough but it works I know there would be far more people converting to EVs if the battery was less expensive there is some great motor controller designs and set ups on here but no homebuilt batteries I can t afford fancy lithium batteries I have got some I have dismantled and to tell you the truth they is not much to them it's the metal that is expensive and hard to get I plan to increase prototype to 288volts 24 12 volts cells linked to gather and wired that each 12 volt cell gets charged separately so if one fails then it will still give power any help or photos of factory built batteries would be greatly appreciated
Go raibh maith agat
  Reply With Quote
Old 01-22-2017, 10:47 AM   #10 (permalink)
EcoModding Apprentice
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: ireland
Posts: 102
Thanks: 8
Thanked 52 Times in 34 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mrmacireland View Post
Dia duit oil pan 4
I think I should take time to explain my battery design and reason for trying to manufacture a homebuilt battery research says zinc is a widely abundant metal now compare that to lithium it is nearly all comes from China mines and is very expensive when deciding on my build I looked at my home island of Ireland and worked out there was plenty of zinc so future volume production could be sourced here instead of importing expensive batteries materials from overseas I think there are plenty of zinc mines in Amerikay also now my build is a prototype I have drained it 101 times so far running a set of bulbs to drain power it is a 8 cell unit 12volt 8 cells at 1.5 volts linked in a series it's rough but it works I know there would be far more people converting to EVs if the battery was less expensive there is some great motor controller designs and set ups on here but no homebuilt batteries I can t afford fancy lithium batteries I have got some I have dismantled and to tell you the truth they is not much to them it's the metal that is expensive and hard to get I plan to increase prototype to 288volts 24 12 volts cells linked to gather and wired that each 12 volt cell gets charged separately so if one fails then it will still give power any help or photos of factory built batteries would be greatly appreciated
Go raibh maith agat
Any chance you could use some punctuation!

Many Thanks

  Reply With Quote
Reply  Post New Thread


Thread Tools




Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.5.2
All content copyright EcoModder.com