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Old 10-29-2011, 09:28 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Aren't you tempted at all to keep the looks and go with wood gas or steam?
Haha, no I don't think the wife will go for that. She wants her black truck.



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LOL, both engines were flatheads.

Measure your restoration hours in the thousands, if you are going for a nice job. Most people loose interest long before they anywhere near completion.

I waited until I retired amd could devote most of my remaining energy to the job and even then I never completely finsihed it, but that was after working on cars for 30 years full time.

I tell you what would be neat. Build it up with a Cummins 4BT diesel engine.

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Haha, that makes sense. Yeah its the V8.

I'm planning on it taking years of my life to fix it up. The wife says she'll help, but I don't know how long that'll last.

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Old 10-29-2011, 09:50 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Nice find!

When I was younger the idea of restoring to better than new was very appealing. My thinking now has evolved, and the rat rod concept would be my route for restoration.

The beauty of a rat rod is you can enjoy the creation, drive it anywhere in any conditions. Customize how you want it to look. Restore as much or little as you want!

Good luck with your project!

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Old 10-29-2011, 10:41 AM   #13 (permalink)
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Go to some second hand stores and swap meets and see if you can find some old metal road signs. They work great for body patches. And it depends on how deep you want to go. Me I would pull everything off down to the rolling a chassis. Then you can work the frame, suspension, rear end, motor, tranny with little effort. Then you can work one piece of the body at a time. one that piece is done put in on. rinse repeat till the whole thing is complete. then off the the paint shop. dont get in a hurry. make it a 5+ year project. This way if life or money get in the way you can put it aside.
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...just remember, with restoration, the price-to-restore function is an exponential equation; the closer you get to "original" the higher the total "co$t" investment becomes.
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I know this doesn't answer your original questions, but you're torturing us with photos for potential dreaming, leads me to have to share my 2 cents worth.

I can't look at that front end w/o thinking: tube front grille w black blockout just behind, '69 Camaro shaded hidden headlights.

There are so many mid to late '40's cars/trucks, extending into the mid '50's that have the high coffin look in the front of their hoods.

An air inlet there breaks up the big nose, and w the grille blockout below, this inlet IS usable. Taste is usually required to make it look right.

Your truck is a natural: you already have the nice stock chrome piece!!! Open up your TRIfecta of air inlets, turn a fake style into usable reality!

I also see a major front airdam, and the truck down in the weeds; but thats just me!
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To old Mech: If that Plymouth setup you made could have stayed on a total Z car platform, could you imagine the head scratching you would cause if you entered such a beast against fellow autocrossers????
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To old Mech: If that Plymouth setup you made could have stayed on a total Z car platform, could you imagine the head scratching you would cause if you entered such a beast against fellow autocrossers????
The center of gravity was very low, like my old 59 Corvette. It ended up weighing less than a 240Z about 2300 pounds dry. The 59 Vette would go around an Interstate cloverleaf at 70 MPH. I'm too old now to do stupid stuff like I did at 23 but I would bet it (the Plymouth) would have been close to the 59 Corvette. Even archaic suspension designs can do very well in turns until you add in potholes and other irregularities.

The old Vette required a torque check on almost all of the mounting fasteners from the frame to the power train. Even lock washers did not keep the mounts tight. Of course it had nothing to do with the way I drove the car, but even then with the 3.08 gear it managed to get over 20 MPG average.

I just didn't slow down much for the turns .

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I used to corner like that but eventually I got tired of ruining good tires with lots of tread left due to belt separations and sidewall bulges.
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lol classic aeroshell.
Not necessarily. I once had a 1955 Ford 1/2 ton with six cylinder and three on the tree. There was a large area in the middle of the hood where the air flowed forward. It got 18 to 20 MPG at 50 MPH on the highway. The kingpin bushings were too worn to drive faster.
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I used to corner like that but eventually I got tired of ruining good tires with lots of tread left due to belt separations and sidewall bulges.
I really didn't have trouble with tires Frank. If my old brain can remember right I put a brand new set of Goodyear Polyglass tires on the Vette. Double the yellow sign max speed limit on corners. It would do 65 in first and 105 in second (with the 3.08 gear and a M22 wide ratio). I even wore out the manual steering box and drove it to work when it would not even turn left, just right. Had to go through the intersection and back up to go left but just to work.

It had a 4.11 gear in it and I tore that up in a couple of weeks. Got a 3.08 for $25 and swapped it out. Had to pull one of the headers off to change the starter. Paid $2000 for the car. That year I made $13,500 and maxed out on Social Security the only time in my life I did that. No rubber bushings in the suspension, it was basically a 53 Chevrolet front end, all threaded steel bushings and 3k mile chassis lube intervals. The engine and tranny came out of a 71 Z28.

Black on Black, only had the hardtop.

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