New from Tuscany
Hi everybody,
I'm Leonardo, i write from Pisa, the city of the leaning tower, in Italy. I drive a 2000 VW Passat B5 (1.9 TDI 110cv), a 2014 Peugeot 208 (1.4 VTi 95cv Petrol and LPG) and a 1986 Renault 4 (950 34cv petrol). And about this last car I'd like to improve the efficency, it's light and not so powerful, so I think its 35 MPG could be improved with some tricks :D I'll read a lot, I think. Have a nice day! |
Have you already planned any mod into the R4? Is it fitted with a Ventoux engine, right?
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Mine is fitted with a Cleon engine...
I'm rebuilding an engine to fit it in, then I'll look for 135/80 tires instead the 145/80 (maybe on alloy wheels). I'd love to fit also an electronic injection from a Twingo with also the Cleon engine, but it's just an idea now. |
Welcome to the site Leondardo.
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The first Twingo in Europe had only 1.2 liters engine, it started with a Cleon C3G, the same family of the one on my R4, 1239cc 8v OHV 54hp. I considerd also to swap a 1.2 liter engine in my car, but the water pump and the alternator wheel are on the opposite side and it can't fit under the bonnet.
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You know what could be cool to swap into your car? One of those Moto Guzzi V-Twin engines :D
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Is the cleon the one used in the mk1 Clio too ?
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Yes, it is. It's a family of engines used for a very long time on little renault (and not only...) cars.
You can find it on wikipedia, Cleon-Fonte. I still can't post link :( But in 90s it begun to be replaced by the Energy (the "E" family) and by the "D" family. So only the first Mk1 Clio and Mk1 Twingo had a Cleon engine. |
If the bottom of the block is the same then you can swap them. It would be a real shame to hack an R4 about to fit something else, unless you are going really radical and fitting a Diesel ?
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I don't think I'll fit a diesel engine, for the Cleons there are some problems for fitting, the transversal mounted ones have a different disposition of camshaft's wheel, alternator and waterpump. So I can't fit it in my car without some major modifications.
For the mod, I'll do only reversible modifications, I want to be able to have the car original if I want. |
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Postscript - they used to be common here in the UK, I remember loads on my street as a small kid. Haven't seen one since 1990s. We put salt on the roads here in winter. And we are the home of British Leyland... |
That's the reason, it's going to be a classic car, so I don't want to modify it irreversibly.
And, in fact, I can't image such mods on that car :) |
Agreed. There are period style eco mods e.g. a vacuum gauge which help too.
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Yep, Renault's 2CV - and arguably better conceived.
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Welcome, Leonardo! I was in your beautiful city 3 years ago. Good luck with your Renault mods and other machines. Love that the Euro engine families have names, not just E4X1, etc.
Have owned: Fiat X1/9 (purchased due to a Popuar Science article, dependable), Opel GT, VW Rabbit(US with German engine). Son has Lamborghini(model with Audi engine), Audi A4 station wagon |
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