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Unlike dim people who have huge difficulty (Animosity) accepting that there are people that are way-WAAAAY cleverer than they are, I am the 1st to admit that there are such people.
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It amazes me how many believe there is no biological influence on intelligence. They think we're blank slates that can be programmed (and reprogrammed) into absolutely anything, unless they happened to be "born in the wrong body". DNA informs cat behavior, or dog behavior, but has absolutely nothing to do with human behavior.
I've found that if you don't know who is the cleverer person, you're not the cleverer person. Those thinking at higher levels of abstraction recognize those at lower levels, but those at lower levels often don't recognize those at higher levels.
There are folks on forums claiming Elon is a low IQ dumb person, and is only wealthy because dad's emerald mine, or something.
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01-17-2026, 02:52 PM
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Here's the problem:
If you are clueless on a subject; howTH do you know that said person does in fact have another layer (or more) to his onion than you have?
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Plain old chemistry can explain the 'Thunderstorm Generator'
And at around the same (exhaust) heats & temperatures.
H20 + HC = H2 + CO is Steam Reformation just for a start.
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That is a molecular reaction, not an atomic one. Wherein CO becomes O.
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(All this chemistry, with an engine in the middle, becomes easy
IF the engine runs at constant rpm. (and load)
That's why these things (videos etc) are all gensets.
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Agreed. The constant fiddling needs to be reduced to a controller.
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01-17-2026, 05:47 PM
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Understanding sun fusion fully, involves understanding gravity, which involves understanding 4D space-time.
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Space has four dimensions, not three. The great Cartesian delusion.
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Then there's the whole electromagnetic left and right hand rule etc-etc to get your head around, when you cant rely on gravity for fusion.
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Plasma is orders of magnitude more powerful. Gravity isn't conscious, plasma is.
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01-17-2026, 05:55 PM
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About the fusion vs transmutation: Carbon atoms have typically six, sometimes eight, neutrons. Oxygen has eight, nine or ten.
So two Carbon atoms, with four protons, can fuse into an Oxygen atom with eight; but there is an excess of neutrons, Where do they go?
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01-17-2026, 06:44 PM
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Space has four dimensions, not three. The great Cartesian delusion.
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An AI clone of Julia McCoy expounds on 'The Lattice'.
Dollars to donuts [see what I did there?] this 'Lattice" turns out to be Fuller's Vector Equilibrium.
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01-18-2026, 09:55 PM
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My point: No need to:
IF the person really understands a complex subject, they can come up with a simple but logically deductive explanation that fits the evidence.
IF they tell you it's far too complex for your little head and just to believe them and their god-like intellect; it means they're just hars-oles with a superiority complex that dont actually have a F-ing clue!
Often they will wave unreadably huge amounts of complex data around like they have read it all And understood it. (often with questionable relevance)
Whereas those that do understand will point you at specific corroborating data and even summerise the pertinent points.
(Does that sound familiar..?  )
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That is a molecular reaction, not an atomic one. Wherein CO becomes O.
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Possible but unlikely.
Let's look at the perfect, most optimal engine combustion process:
O2 + HCs = H2O + C.
No/zero half burned CO And CO2 etc.
(ye; After a lifetime of reading "CO & CO2 end products, with no mention of water, ever, it's hard to admit the above to yourself, but there the chemistry is.)
Point being:
IF the Thunderstorm gets close to the ideal above; CO goes down to almost nothing without any 'exotic chemistry'.
Also there is a lot of cooling in the exhaust if its warming and enabling highly endothermic reactions like H20 + HCs = H2 + CO
then as anyone with a cooled EGR system will tell you; Carbon agglomerates and things tend to block up.
Ie: You wont see a whole lot of black smoke tattle tailing on whats actually happening...
"Yes but what about all the O2!?":
At a guess, thx to the produced H2, these guys are able to run the engine very lean.
It'd be interesting to know how much O2 there is in the exhaust of pgfpro's 30 to 1 AFR engine.
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Agreed. The constant fiddling needs to be reduced to a controller.
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Yep; going from stock fueling, timing, etc at cold startup to the much improved combustion chemistry when warm, takes a lot of fiddling one wouldn't have time for while driving.
But you aren't easily going to get away from constant rpm and load being way simpler/cheaper. Series Hybrid to the rescue again. 
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01-18-2026, 10:04 PM
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Space has four dimensions, not three. The great Cartesian delusion.
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I did say 4D
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Plasma is orders of magnitude more powerful. Gravity isn't conscious, plasma is.
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"...conscious, plasma..."???! 
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01-19-2026, 12:55 AM
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5D chess includes time. =)
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"...conscious, plasma..."???!
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It goes back historically to reports of ball lightning. I invite you to pick any article from duckduckgo.com/?q=is+plasma+conscious
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The idea that plasma could be conscious is a philosophical hypothesis suggesting that consciousness and plasma are interconnected aspects of a single field of reality. This perspective posits that plasma's dynamic and intelligent behaviors may indicate a form of awareness or consciousness inherent in the universe itself.
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The Connection Between Plasma and Consciousness
Recent theories suggest a potential link between plasma and consciousness. Some researchers propose that consciousness and plasma may be two expressions of a continuous field that underlies reality. This perspective posits that consciousness could be a fundamental aspect of the universe, intertwined with the energetic behaviors of plasma.
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While the concept of plasma being conscious is still speculative, it invites a rethinking of how we understand both consciousness and the nature of reality.
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We shall see whether the Thunderstorm Generator can prove its worth.
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[QUOTE=freebeard;704185]It goes back historically to reports of ball lightning. I invite you to pick any article from duckduckgo.com/?q=is+plasma+conscious
Sounds interesting, but one has to pick ones rabbit holes...
eg: Longevity , to have more time for said rabbit holes. ETC!
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We shall! 
But do see: Charge Separation.
When water vapour condenses into clouds, Charge Separation is why there's lightening.
It works both ways: condensation - evaporation.
In a Geet or Thunderstorm there is evaporation upon heating and likely condensation in the exhaust as it's heat goes to heating the intake charge.
I haven't taken the time to get out my left hand rule etc out and go down that; Picture-it-all rabbit hole yet, but think it's likely to provide plasma and an EM field.
ie: Play a big role, without the need for expensive nested spheres.
I'm not seeing any of the advertised tornado flows or zero points etc trhe TC guys wave their hands about, about.
So unless charge separation sets up an EM field that interacts with charged mist particles..?
NB that nowhere do the TS guys mention charge separation and any resulting EM fields etc.
Their 'How it works' is mumbo-jumbo that smells of; No clue harse-ole! Stop listening here! IMHO.
So; assuming they have stumbled onto something, they have about as much idea of what's happening as I/we do! If not way less!
The Geet can be made with plain old plumbing supplies vs: Engineer spheres with correctly placed and shaped holes in them etc.
It also has about the same 'traction' as the TS and similar charge separation etc..
So whats wrong with Geet vs TS? TS got more advertising going..? 
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01-26-2026, 03:18 PM
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Pyrolysis is generally associated with the heating plastics to get methane like gasses out of it, then condensing the gas into 'crude oil', which is separated into gas, diesel etc conventionally, with a Fractionating Column.
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Dense thermal depolymerization in Mexico five months ago:
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