OEM Bellypan - Honda iCDTi
 

Just thought I'd post this. xcel over on cmpg posted these pictures in my Paseo thread over there. Its of a diesel Honda Civic (not avaliable in the US). Not too shabby Honda. :thumbup:

http://www.cleanmpg.com/forums/showt...8950#post78950


iCDTi exhaust through the bumper cowling.
http://www.cleanmpg.com/photos/data/...p_with_B20.jpg


iCDTi from the front looking back
http://www.cleanmpg.com/photos/data/...ody_panels.jpg


Rear looking forward.
http://www.cleanmpg.com/photos/data/...ody_panels.jpg

I wish the back end weren't so ugly. :/

x2

I like it!

Haha, me too. :)

good work :)

iCDTi
 

bellypan looks great.No styling concern either,as nobody knows its there! And no doubt,its part of the cars overall mpg performance.Good for HONDA,good for us.

I think this is the cleanest bellypan installation I've seen on a high-volume production car.

I think it looks sweet. MPG?

MPG: Jalopnik hypermiles a diesel Civic & Audi Q7 SUV - much efficiency ensues

That car was recently driven from Chicago to LA in a milage race. It got just a hair above 60 mpg. Just as a comparison a 2nd gen Prius, 1st gen Civic hybrid, and 2nd gen Civic hybrid were also raced. The Prius got 56.5, 1st gen Civic hybrid got 59.3, and the 2nd gen Civic got 56.0.

Not that I know of. But, I can't see diesel being less expensive for only a 10% increase in fuel economy.

I was one of those drivers.

We tracked everything, including prices. The i-CDTi came out on top, above the HCH-1 and HCH-2 and the Prius, but only by a bit. With fuel price considered, it was the worst. We're missing part of the logbook for this car, so I'm not sure about the overall totals.

But... best tank in that car was all the way across California, for 72mpg over about 500 miles.

And let's just say that Jalopnik's measurements are, well, *suspect*. At 100 miles, a short fill can do amazing things for your numbers. (not to mention that they broke some trim pieces off it)

... and here's what a top-class hypermiler can do with it, with good weather and only one passenger and no time constraints.

Daox -

That Civic is my favorite and makes me bitter that we get the dregs over here. GORGEOUS design IMO. I should have the engine options at home. I will look them up and post them unless someone beats me to it (hint).

CarloSW2

Hello -

I'll take my own hint. Here's are the (blurry) specs on the 2007 Civic :

http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/5...ivicwa7.th.jpg

What I like is that it is NOT available in automatic. Six speed manual trannys (S6) one and all, :thumbup: .

CarloSW2

PaleMelanesian -

That is sooooooo righteous!!!! It even has the uber-practical "Fit is Go" rear seat configuration. I AM SO JEALOUS OF EUROPEANS RIGHT NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!

CarloSW2

Some more euro Civic pr0n for those interested.

I love the head butt @ 5:07 :D

[youtube]http://youtube.com/v/AO0ieA7tvzc[/youtube]

Actually, the "REV" dash display in red on the left & the "ECO" display on the right is an amusing touch as well.

ummm. yeah. So why don't we have that over here? Too cool for U.S.? That car looks awesome. Great Vid! Thanks Metro

Wow that a is really nice Civic. I guess it it's to unsafe to drive in the states:rolleyes:

That dude looks like he would be fun to party with.:)

Euro diesel emisson regs are a good bit easier to meet.
USA certification will require additional emissions gear & less fuel economy, especially for 2010.

Honda IS bringing the next version of that engine (i-DTEC) here in an Acura. I believe it's for the 09 model year TSX. Maybe later it'll go into the Accord and maybe even later into a civic. We can hope.

The reason it won't be brought into the U.S. is
 

the Obama administration's decision to allow the states to individually regulate tail pipe emissions and carbon emissions.

Every major car manufacturer which did not already have a diesel on the market dropped development when this change was announced. The 49 states plus California rule was troublesome enough, but the many state rules that will come simply is not economically viable for the auto makers.

That leaves VW & MB as the major manufacturers selling diesel autos. (Please don't count the diesel trucks in this category. Although they are useful, they are also already on the market.)

The differences between the prior U.S. rules and those of the E.U. are not as great as many imagine. The initial delay in clean diesel adoption in the U.S. was because of the unavailability of ultra low sulphur diesel fuel in the U.S. It was further delayed after some natural disasters impacted refining capacity.