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Old 07-14-2013, 03:49 PM   #151 (permalink)
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Yeah, that's what motor oil does, except for the fuel pump, which really needs no lube besides the fuel itself.

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Old 07-14-2015, 02:54 PM   #152 (permalink)
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still using it 2 years later, car idle feels smoother, and driving and accel feels smoother. im not kidding,

not so much into mpg recently, but i still use this TC-W3 additive.
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Since this thread was brought back from the dead, I started reading it at the beginning...and stopped after the second post veered off into subjective territory.

This is as bad as the people who change to a synthetic oil and report that their engines "feel smoother."
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Old 07-14-2015, 07:07 PM   #154 (permalink)
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Sigh - - - just read the WHOLE THING.... Doesn't look like anythng I "need".

I feel stupid now for reading 16 pages of a thread to come to the same conclusion I would have normally done instinctively.

HOWEVER - THANK YOU to those who diligently soldiered on, tested it for awhile (long enough to mean something), and then reported back the results were not statistically significant. As someone said earlier "no significant results" actually IS a real answer. Thanks again. :-)
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Sigh - - - just read the WHOLE THING.... Doesn't look like anythng I "need".

I feel stupid now for reading 16 pages of a thread to come to the same conclusion I would have normally done instinctively.

HOWEVER - THANK YOU to those who diligently soldiered on, tested it for awhile (long enough to mean something), and then reported back the results were not statistically significant. As someone said earlier "no significant results" actually IS a real answer. Thanks again. :-)
Yep, no significant change in fuel economy was my results too. That is certainly a real answer.

On the other hand, fuel economy has nothing to do with why I put it in the tank.
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Since this thread was brought back from the dead, I started reading it at the beginning...and stopped after the second post veered off into subjective territory.

This is as bad as the people who change to a synthetic oil and report that their engines "feel smoother."
so if you dont change your oil, and its dirty, and then you change your oil, you dont feel a difference? find that hard to believe.

not saying that is the same, but there are subtle things out there, some people cant notice, some can.
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Yep, no significant change in fuel economy was my results too. That is certainly a real answer.

On the other hand, fuel economy has nothing to do with why I put it in the tank.
+1, nothing to do with FE , more better care to the engine
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Sigh - - - just read the WHOLE THING.... Doesn't look like anythng I "need".

I feel stupid now for reading 16 pages of a thread to come to the same conclusion I would have normally done instinctively.

HOWEVER - THANK YOU to those who diligently soldiered on, tested it for awhile (long enough to mean something), and then reported back the results were not statistically significant. As someone said earlier "no significant results" actually IS a real answer. Thanks again. :-)
if your curious for reasons other than FE, i would try it,
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I feel stupid now for reading 16 pages of a thread to come to the same conclusion I would have normally done instinctively.
Ha! I only read four pages!

I have it set to display forty messages per page...

I was surprised to see this come up, having researched Marvel Mystery Oil, and deciding, as someone else wrote, to "just leave that on the shelf."
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so if you dont change your oil, and its dirty, and then you change your oil, you dont feel a difference? find that hard to believe.

not saying that is the same, but there are subtle things out there, some people cant notice, some can.
That's not what I said. First of all, dirty oil is not a bad thing--it gets dirty because it's holding particles, combustion byproducts, and wear material in suspension, which is what it's supposed to do. Second, no--you can't feel a difference between an engine running "dirty" oil and the same engine running "clean" oil--the same way experienced sommeliers cannot distinguish between red and white wines in blind taste tests. Humans constantly and consistently think we can "feel" or sense effects that are immeasurable, as well as changes that are impossible (search this site and see how many threads have been started by people claiming that after completing an aeromod their engine speed decreased for the same vehicle speed. Impossible without a CVT, yet reported here many, many times). The frictional properties of conventional and synthetic oils of the same weight are so close as to be indistinguishable to a person driving the car around or "feeling" the engine.

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