P/S Delete on a '00 Corolla?
 

I want to either remove or disable the PS on the Green Goblin, I mostly do highway/freeway driving so I don't really need it. I heard there is a way to remove the fluid without harming anything, and remove some belt so the pump isn't running? Idk I'm confused and would love some advice. If it's possible, I would like a solution that would allow the ability to get it working again for re-sale without to much work.

Oh also, I would like to get a hotter sensor for my radiator fans, where would I look for one?

I believe that you need to reengineer this:
http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n...eltdiagram.jpg
http://ecomodder.com/forum/showthrea...elp-10688.html

If you have one serpentine belt instead of individual belts, you would need to figure out a new route and a new belt.

I have never heard of Aerolla, but in his garage, it says he deactivated the power steering on his 1997. I looked at about sixty other Corollas and nobody else even mentioned this modification!

Oh wow... Well Nvm then lol. Oh well it was worth asking anyway.

It never hurts to ask--unless a woman will slap you! :D

Why don't you try buying a MR2 Spyder tensioner and serpentine belt? The MR-S has EHPS, no belt driven PS pump. I think that's all you would need to do. Just route like it is on the MR-S.

Toyota OEM Belt Idler Pulley - MR2-S, Lotus or FWD PS Delete - TOY-ZZIDLER van Toyota OEM -
I'm guessing you could get one from a Toyota dealer too

If you really want to save money, a lot of people part out blown 1ZZ/2ZZ engines (and there are a lot of blown engines), you can get a pulley really cheap from them if you browse the forums.

That one is $75
$44.37 Toyota Parts - Toyota Parts Superstore

You can purchase one from Autozone or O'Reilly for much less.

If you can do the p/s delete for $50 to $100 and pick up 2 or 3 mpg it would be worth it.

Sure threw in the towel fast. Couldn't a shorter belt be run on the topside of the tensioner pulley?

More food for thought: http://ecomodder.com/forum/showthrea...ork-20558.html

Doesn't look like the tensioner would have a very good angle on the belt to do its job. The grooved side of the belt would be running on a smooth pulley too, unless both sides are grooved.

I'm confused, I'm willing to give it a try if there is no risk in damaging the car. Just explain what I need to do exactly, I'm not the best at doing work like this but, I am willing to learn.

Also, for me personally, even a 0.5mpg increase would be worth it.

There are options. If the angle proves feasible for the belt run but not for the tensioner to maintain tension, perhaps the tensioner could be fixed to position and tension set manually.

If running the ribs on a smooth pulley causes a problem, perhaps a grooved pulley could be mounted without too much difficulty.

Nice thing is, it appears the power steering system could be left completely intact if for some reason wolf wants it hooked up again.

I plan on buying a new car (gonna try to find a Toyota Echo with around 50k miles for like 8k or so) when I get the settlement from my car accident, so I will be hooking it back up again to either trade it in or privately sell it.

From 39.69 to 40.19 MPG, with the cheapest gas in Apple Valley, California being $3.96, you would go from 9.977 to 9.853 cents per mile, and if the modification costs $50, the break-even point should be:

$50 = $3.96 * (0.09977 - 0.09853) * miles = 0.0049104 * miles
miles = $50 / 0.0049104 = 10,182.47 miles

Oh, so you do not plan on driving it 10,182.5 miles?

I am glad that we could have this talk.

I pay 4.15. Cheapest around me is 3.99. Also yea, I will probably be putting that many miles on it. I have only had the car for a week and a half and I have already put 1.5k miles on it.

[Edit]: Probably won't have the money for another 3-4 months. So I will probably rack around 20k miles before then, maybe 15k.

Also, does anyone know a ball-park figure of gains from pizza pan wheel covers? This is a mod I really want to do and would like to know what kind of gains I would see from it.

Personal opinion, might not be representative of the truth:
Drivetrain side mods on most cars get you way more mpg than reducing the amount of energy it takes to move the car around. The PS delete will show noticable improvement whereas aero will be harder to detect. Of course with something really easy and basically free like a grill block go ahead.

Also don't even bother with 50 bucks for a new one, like I said go on Spyderchat or Lotustalk or something and find someone who blew their motor. ZZ motors have oiling problems and a lot of them die from oil starvation (2ZZ mainly), and heavy oil consumption from stuck rings (1ZZ mainly) which leads to oil starvation. Someone on Spyderchat is parting out a car with bent valves right now, doesn't hurt to ask for the idler pulley. I can't imagine they'd want more than 30 bucks for it.

Where would I mount it on the Corolla even if I did get it?

Oh also, I will be doing a grill block very soon. Especially since I have my UG and can watch engine temps more closely now.

Wait, I mean this in the most respectful possible way, but do you even read the replies to your posts in your own thread? It puts an idler pulley where the PS used to be, you unbolt the PS pump, put the idler on, and then put the stock belt on.

Ohhhhhhh see that's what I was asking, and it was a perfectly reasonable question to ask.

I don't want to remove the P/S all together though, as I will be selling the car in about ~4 months. I have nowhere to store it to put it back on later otherwise I would be willing to remove it. Unless it's really small that is.

Omg /facedesk, I didn't see the part about (FWD) all together on that, I only saw the MR2 and Lotus part on the delete... Man I really need to pay attention more...

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I just do not have any idea how long five "slow, graceful dance[s] that [were] popular in the 17th and 18th centuries" would take.

Also from the wiki:
Does anyone know how up-to-date the wiki is? I have been wanting to look into it, see if we can get more data.

Wow, even at 5% that would be a 2mpg increase over what I'm getting right now. And that plus the P/S mod I might get +10-15% which would be nice, would get me to about 45mpg...