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Jean-Seb 07-09-2011 02:48 PM

Passenger side mirror delete, complete
 
So my first eco-modification is completed (not counting the 5-speed swap haha). Also first time I used fiberglass. :)

I went for a stylish, factory-looking block-off plate using a spare mirror.

On to the pictures...

Stock mirror
http://i629.photobucket.com/albums/u...llIMG_0079.jpg

http://i629.photobucket.com/albums/u...llIMG_0077.jpg

Spare cut off
http://i629.photobucket.com/albums/u...llIMG_0082.jpg

After rough shaping, on the car
http://i629.photobucket.com/albums/u...llIMG_0083.jpg

A piece of plastic "foil" was taped on the outside to create a base for the fiberglass
http://i629.photobucket.com/albums/u...llIMG_0086.jpg

First layer
http://i629.photobucket.com/albums/u...llIMG_0089.jpg

Fast forward, fiberglass finished, rough shaped
http://i629.photobucket.com/albums/u...llIMG_0099.jpg

First layer of body filler
http://i629.photobucket.com/albums/u...llIMG_0120.jpg

First layer of body filler sanded, second applied
http://i629.photobucket.com/albums/u...llIMG_0123.jpg

Jean-Seb 07-09-2011 02:49 PM

Then after 4-5 coats of primer and 5-6 coats of Tremclad rust paint (most were watersanded away lol)
http://i629.photobucket.com/albums/u...llIMG_0135.jpg

On the car, finished
http://i629.photobucket.com/albums/u...llIMG_0136.jpg

http://i629.photobucket.com/albums/u...llIMG_0137.jpg

http://i629.photobucket.com/albums/u...llIMG_0140.jpg

Thanks for watching. :D

aerohead 07-09-2011 03:29 PM

seamless
 
It's a pity that so few will ever realize what you've done,and all the effort that went into it.Truly a seamless modification which would embarrass even the automakers.Really top drawer! Thanks!:thumbup:

Jean-Seb 07-10-2011 12:47 AM

Thank you kindly ! :)

piers.singer 07-10-2011 10:25 AM

I agree, very well done indeed. I hope that you can see some good results from it.

California98Civic 07-10-2011 11:36 AM

Nice!

Weather Spotter 07-10-2011 01:25 PM

that looks almost exactly like what I did on my car. For me it was worth 1.4 MPG I think.

Are you going to add a mirror on the inside?

Floordford 07-10-2011 09:42 PM

I used black gorilla tape backed by a piece of cardboard. Yours looks much nicer. Good job.

Jean-Seb 08-01-2011 09:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Weather Spotter (Post 249548)
Are you going to add a mirror on the inside?

Thanks everyone for the kind words ! :D

I was going to but I installed my outside mirror back for now. I did find a spot where I could do some A-B-A-B testing, I shall see when I feel like doing it. :o

larrybuck 08-01-2011 09:57 PM

Very nice job!!! We just need thousands, if not millions of people to follow you!

BamZipPow 08-02-2011 12:09 AM

Now you can integrate a camera on there... ;)

Jean-Seb 08-18-2011 10:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by larrybuck (Post 253581)
Very nice job!!! We just need thousands, if not millions of people to follow you!

Thank you ! But they better not be in my blind spot... haha :p

Quote:

Originally Posted by BamZipPow (Post 253624)
Now you can integrate a camera on there... ;)

Hmmm, that would be cool, but less is more in my case. :)

Jean-Seb 08-19-2011 08:22 PM

I did take some pictures of rain on my side window... there was turbulence along the A-pillar but not much at "mirror" height. :D

http://i629.photobucket.com/albums/u...llIMG_0160.jpg

kach22i 08-20-2011 10:51 AM

I find this thread a bit strange, because for years I've thought of adding a passenger side mirror to my old car.

When you want to get in the right lane, you are blind to what is racing up behind you.

No passenger side mirror in 1977.
http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x...che/P-Side.jpg

In another thread they said both side mirrors together account for .1 in your Cd, I don't see how removal of one mirror can make a 1-mpg difference. Maybe it prevents you from getting in the fast lane for fear of having to get back over, but that would be about it.

Just my two cents....................safety first.

Rasa123 08-20-2011 03:58 PM

Wow, that looks incredible! Looks like it's right from the factory. Are you going to mount a small mirror on the inside, go with a camera, or just leave it how it is? Just wondering.

California98Civic 08-22-2011 08:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kach22i (Post 257274)
In another thread they said both side mirrors together account for .1 in your Cd, I don't see how removal of one mirror can make a 1-mpg difference.

Whether you have big or small blindspots depends on the car, and so does whether there is a benefit to a mirror delete. Some mirrors are better integrated into the body and produce less trouble--apparently--than others. For some there will be little to know measurable difference. But assuming there is a minor benefit these seems to fit into the category of mods you do knowing you will need to do many more to pile-up small benefits into a significant one. To me the point of modding is not just the big gain, it is also experimenting with multiple small changes that together create a big change.

As for safety... I agree, but I don't see this as a safety issue. My interior convex mirror is coordinated with the windshield mounted mirror: before any object in the center mirror disappear, it appears in the convex mirror (even motorcycles). I have no blind spot. And I can always look to the right, which I also do (out of habit).

cfg83 08-22-2011 12:48 PM

Jean-Seb -

Gorgeous execution and the abundance of pictures is helpful to others.

CarloSW2

Big Dave 08-22-2011 06:56 PM

Looks very professional.

California98Civic 08-23-2011 06:35 AM

Hiyah Jean-Seb,

I just noticed in post #9 you replaced the stock mirror and that you are considering some ABAB testing soon. I'd love to see you do the testing. You'll need a good sensitive design for the test, as the benefit always seems significant but small if it materializes. Did you put the mirror back due to concern about visibility? There is an adjustment, but if you get a good sized convex mirror, place it carefully--as I know you will given the expertise of this little mod--and then angle it so the image overlaps with your center mirror you will not lose visibility of traveling objects on your right, though when you see them through which mirror will change.

No matter whether you keep the delete or not, this build and and test you design well, whether it shows a benefit or none, will be useful to the forum community without a doubt.

Regards,
james

kach22i 08-23-2011 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by California98Civic (Post 257536)
As for safety... I agree, but I don't see this as a safety issue. My interior convex mirror is coordinated with the windshield mounted mirror:

I did not know this, thank you for letting me know.

An important point before anyone embarks on this sort of project.

OneOfFew 08-23-2011 01:14 PM

Wow, that turned out really well. Good job.

jime57 08-23-2011 08:12 PM

The mirror savings, according to Hucho, is about .01 for both mirrors. I think someone got a decimal point in the wrong place ;)

Quote:

Originally Posted by kach22i (Post 257274)
I find this thread a bit strange, because for years I've thought of adding a passenger side mirror to my old car.

When you want to get in the right lane, you are blind to what is racing up behind you.

No passenger side mirror in 1977.
http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x...che/P-Side.jpg

In another thread they said both side mirrors together account for .1 in your Cd, I don't see how removal of one mirror can make a 1-mpg difference. Maybe it prevents you from getting in the fast lane for fear of having to get back over, but that would be about it.

Just my two cents....................safety first.


kach22i 08-24-2011 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimepting (Post 257805)
The mirror savings, according to Hucho, is about .01 for both mirrors. I think someone got a decimal point in the wrong place ;)

I hate it when I do that.

greenteagod 04-06-2014 01:13 AM

I hate photobucket


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