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redneck 01-17-2018 09:51 AM

Peak oil... Again...!!!
 
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U.S. oil industry set to break record, upend global trade

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-u...-idUSKBN1F50HV


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HOUSTON (Reuters) - Surging shale production is poised to push U.S. oil output to more than 10 million barrels per day - toppling a record set in 1970 and crossing a threshold few could have imagined even a decade ago.


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TECHNOLOGY OPENS UP NEW FIELDS

The next phase of shale output growth depends on techniques to squeeze more oil from each well. Companies are now putting sensors on drill bits to more precisely access oil deposits, using artificial intelligence and remote operators to get the most out of equipment and trained engineers.



It looks like there is going to be plenty of oil for the foreseeable future. :thumbup:

Lets just not waste it...


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freebeard 01-17-2018 04:28 PM

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The next phase of shale output growth depends on techniques to squeeze more oil from each well.
It sounds like supply isn't the problem; it's the economics. Shale can't be replenished from deep, hot abiotic sources like those pockets of sweet crude oil.

Meanwhile it's up against the falling price of 24-hour solar:

https://insideclimatenews.org/news/1...t-dunes-nevada

oil pan 4 01-17-2018 05:09 PM

NM just because the #3 oil producing state because of new technology.

Lemmy 01-18-2018 05:44 AM

They dig it out the ground, and us muppets burn it.

Xist 01-18-2018 10:32 AM

Honestly, I am more concerned with contaminated drinking water, earthquakes, and sinkholes.

cRiPpLe_rOoStEr 01-18-2018 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Xist (Post 559072)
Honestly, I am more concerned with contaminated drinking water, earthquakes, and sinkholes.

That's also my concern when it comes to shale oil. IIRC extraction of shale gas had been banned in Costa Rica for the very same reason.

freebeard 01-18-2018 11:46 PM

I'm concerned about growing hills of Spent Shale: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oil_shale_coke

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Depending on the extraction process and the amount of remaining organic matter, spent shale may be classified as oil shale coke, semi-coke or coke-ash residue, known also as oil shale ash.[1][2] According to the European Union waste list all these types of spent shale are classified as hazardous waste.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...SpentShale.jpg

Xist 01-19-2018 02:35 AM

Runoff must be a pretty with all of the colors of the rainbow.

redpoint5 01-19-2018 02:58 AM

I thought the shale was left in the ground, with water/frack fluid forcing the petrolium up and out of the earth.

freebeard 01-19-2018 05:52 AM

That's fracking. I didn't know until I looked that there is an in situ method using heat instead of water.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shale_oil_extraction
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Shale oil extraction is usually performed above ground (ex situ processing) by mining the oil shale and then treating it in processing facilities. Other modern technologies perform the processing underground (on-site or in situ processing) by applying heat and extracting the oil via oil wells.

cRiPpLe_rOoStEr 01-19-2018 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by freebeard (Post 559145)
I'm concerned about growing hills of Spent Shale

That's sure a matter of concern. Couldn't it be used to make cement like it's done with coal ashes? BTW nowadays some ethanol breweries that burn the sugarcane bagass for heating and co-generation are also reusing the ashes to make cement.

freebeard 01-19-2018 12:59 PM

Cement or concrete aggregate? I saw that's it's used for aggregate, but I can't find the reference. It's probably uneconomic to move it (as a bulk material) to the point of use.

redpoint5 01-19-2018 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by freebeard (Post 559160)
That's fracking. I didn't know until I looked that there is an in situ method using heat instead of water.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shale_oil_extraction

Ahh, I didn't know what the shale I was talking about. I've got no fracking idea what I was thinking. I'm prepared to have strong opinions on the subjects though! :p

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Originally Posted by freebeard (Post 559192)
Cement or concrete aggregate? I saw that's it's used for aggregate, but I can't find the reference. It's probably uneconomic to move it (as a bulk material) to the point of use.

If it's an environmental hazard and the waste is sufficiently regulated, then using it as an aggregate would be an economical way to deal with it.

Then again, where does old aggregate go to die?

cRiPpLe_rOoStEr 01-27-2018 06:04 AM

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Originally Posted by freebeard (Post 559192)
Cement or concrete aggregate? I saw that's it's used for aggregate, but I can't find the reference. It's probably uneconomic to move it (as a bulk material) to the point of use.

I was told it was used to make cement, but it was some 18 years ago when I went on a school trip to a coal-fed powerplant. Since there is at least one cement factory nearby, it might be true.


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