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Old 06-29-2025, 05:03 PM   #361 (permalink)
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Plus which, information is more beneficial than supporting suburban landscaping.
That is the funny thing about the current fight here in Hillsboro about growth. The slogan the opposition to growth like to use the motto "No Farms No Food". Except almost none of the land in question grows food. I guess it sounds better than "No seeds no golf courses" !!!! At a recent public comment meeting with the governor's office when North Hillsboro was in the running for a national semiconductor research lab you had people waving "No Data Farms" signs when zoning specifically banned data farms.

We hear the that Willamette Valley has the "most productive farmland in the nation". Ironically I heard the same claim almost everywhere I've lived: Michigan, Virginia, Alabama. Yet in testimony by farmers that actually farm the last they say it is marginal at best and and the brink of becoming uneconomic for even growing seed.

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Old 06-29-2025, 07:48 PM   #362 (permalink)
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Golf courses! Don't get me started. It's not just the grass seed, it's also the irrigation water.

They should just take a hike up some hill.
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Who is PewDiePie, one of your niche creators?

People like to complain.



Show Low continues to grow [slowly]
The old Kmart was finally replaced by Cal Ranch (which moved half a mile), Planet Fitness, and TJ Max.
Planet Fitness isn't progress.
When we found out that it was opening, everyone said "We already have gyms! We don't need corporations driving out local business!
When we heard about TJ Max there was more of the same, plus "We already have Ross!"
Strangely, that post was deleted, and the posts that I saw had people excited for some reason.

When will something go in where the old Cal Ranch was--and Big Lots?
This seems like a net zero, except for new coffee shops and car washes.

Golf courses also use metric tons of fertilizer, but I hear they are great for attracting doctors.
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Old 07-01-2025, 09:25 AM   #364 (permalink)
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They built a super Kmart across from a successful home depot. Freeway offramp access, huge parking lot. Nobody ever went there, they preferred the crowded inaccessible one in the center of town. When it closed, it sat empty for many years. The city finally tore it down, and permitted apartments which seem mostly full. Ditto for the wallyworld on the other side of the freeway downtown by the casinos.

Fit for purpose? Good for a McDonald's, but not for anything else?

So you have location, but there is also suitability. Maybe Jack's burgers works, but

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