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Old 02-04-2011, 12:46 AM   #101 (permalink)
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I've seen some people post about mounting the pizza pan with no drilled holes (for zipties, etc). How about some good ol' JB Weld?

Get some eyebolts or thick washers (or similar), bond them to the inside of the hubcap, then run the ziptie through the eyebolt hole to attach it to the wheel.

It would not be easy to take off for tire changing unless you mounted the eyebolt right at the edge of the pizza pan and could pull it out far enough to cut the zipties with a knife. But for some (myself included), the benefit in appearance would be worth it.

Any downsides I've not considered? It would add a couple bucks to the project I suppose....

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Old 02-04-2011, 09:20 AM   #102 (permalink)
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the only downside I can think of is what you just mentioned, getting the cover off to rotate the tires will be a pain in the ass. It might not even survive depending on how much glue you use.
So.. basically I'm not sure how you expect this to pay off, you will be spending more than you save.
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Old 02-04-2011, 02:18 PM   #103 (permalink)
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Yes, I agree that there would be no additional savings. The 'payback' would not be financial, it would be aesthetics.

JB Weld is not glue - the zip ties would fail before the bond between the washer and the pizza pan.

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Old 02-04-2011, 04:42 PM   #104 (permalink)
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You should use these:
Browse Catalog - Cable Ties & Accessories - FTH-40 - Cable Tie Holder
I will test those with adhesive already on place. But you can order ones without that adhesive so you can use that JB weld. Should work nicely.
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Old 02-04-2011, 07:11 PM   #105 (permalink)
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Yeah, that looks great! Almost like it was designed for the job.
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Old 02-04-2011, 10:31 PM   #106 (permalink)
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Ok from what I can tell this is not a one size fits all solution. I have an idea of what could work for alloy spoke rims. All of the materials can be purchased for little cost at Loews or Home Depot. Even Ace hardware if you have a phobia for big box stores


Materials:
24" of SS 1/4" Allthread
3 fender washers 1/4" SS
3 1/4" SS fiber locking nuts
1/4" vacuum hose or electrical tape

Bend the allthread to size and length required for your rims.

See the cheesy diagram below I made in paint.

http://ecomodder.com/forum/member-mo...ip-diagram.jpg

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Old 02-05-2011, 10:51 AM   #107 (permalink)
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There wouldn't be any way to lock the thread all from turning or wiggling free as yer driving down the road. The face of the cover would flex and the nuts would work itself loose.

You would need some wide "U" bolts with the bar and extra nuts to fasten it to the wheel. Then use some acorn or normal nuts on the outside to keep the cover on the fastener along with some Locktite.
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i don't know if it's been said before (11 pages of thread is a lot to mine thru), but the old moon discs were mounted unto the rim by drilling a hole in the wheel lip and screwing them on with sheet metal screws.
It does not affect tire sealing and it provides a nice flat surface upon which to drill.
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...but, wasn't that "screwing" done into thicker aluminum/mag-type rims, not simple OEM production stamped steel wheels?
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Aluminum would require a machine screw and a tapped hole w/ a helicoil insert of some sort.

It was on steel wheels mostly, with the pointed end going right into the sidewall bead. the small piercing on the bead causes no inflation issues with the tire, note i said small piercing... do not try to use a 2" long metal screw to secure the cap lol.

Actually, running screws through the rim into the sidewall was also done as a racers trick to keep the tire from spinning on the rim under heavy acceleration like in drag racing.

Here's the installation instruction sheet that is given with the moon discs from the speedwaymotors website:

INSTALLING MOON STYLE WHEEL DISCS

1. Wheel discs can be applied with tires on or off the vehicle.
2. Place disc on wheel and line up hole with valve stem.
3.Mark back of wheel disc with this location of the valve stem. This will help with placement and alignment of disc when installed.
4. Scribe the location of all three mounting holes, center punch and drill each hole with a #17 drill bit.
5. Warning! Do not drill through the tire - only drill 3/16" deep; mark drill bit with a piece of tape for proper depth.
6. Mount each wheel disc using the self tapping screws. If the hole is too tight, increase the size of the hole with a #16 drill bit.
7. Use blue silicone sealer or loctite to prevent the screws from backing out.


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