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mhmitszach 05-28-2008 07:48 PM

Possible civic purchase.
 
1998 Black 4 door Honda Civic EX with manual transmission D16Y8 vetec (afaik)

273k miles

Dent on front of hood, Rear quarter panel a bit dented, rollin' on a donut.

Besides that in great shape, interior is nice too.

But, I can get it for around 1000 or less. afaik.

Epa mpg 25/32 - 28

Which kinda sucks though. But people seem to be able to pull 40 with them.

But compared to my car, I can almost hit 40.

I'm not sure if it'd be worth it?

Other question. What are the cost of transmissions/engines for this generation civic?

Say I wanted to put in a transmission from a 92-95 vx or one of those more efficient engines. What is the price range of them?

General opinions?

zach

SVOboy 05-28-2008 07:53 PM

Well, if it's running well, go for it. Could you sell your car to pay for the difference?

Arminius 05-28-2008 08:04 PM

Hard to say. I think the car has too many miles. How many miles are on your car? You already know its history.

mhmitszach 05-28-2008 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Arminius (Post 29203)
Hard to say. I think the car has too many miles. How many miles are on your car? You already know its history.


112k miles. I've only put about 6k on it though.

Which is kinda my dilemma now.

But at the same time. I've pretty much reached peak mpg in it. Where as the civic has the potential of hitting 50 mpg.

SVOboy 05-28-2008 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Arminius (Post 29203)
Hard to say. I think the car has too many miles. How many miles are on your car? You already know its history.

No such thing as too many miles on a honda!

ankit 05-28-2008 09:24 PM

Original transmission and engine? If it is good mechanically than <$1k is a good price IMO. Are there any maintenance history papers?

mhmitszach 05-28-2008 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by ankit (Post 29229)
Original transmission and engine? If it is good mechanically than <$1k is a good price IMO. Are there any maintenance history papers?

Hoping to find that out soon.

Arminius 05-28-2008 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by mhmitszach (Post 29204)
112k miles. I've only put about 6k on it though.

Which is kinda my dilemma now.

But at the same time. I've pretty much reached peak mpg in it. Where as the civic has the potential of hitting 50 mpg.

Hhhmm. Well, my old 92 Escort had a 1.8L engine and died with 320k on it. I think your engine was made by Mazda, but I could very well be mistaken about that. Personally speaking, I always prefer what I already own, if it is working well. I'll never trade something that works well for something else that I don't know too much about.

Keep in mind, I'm presently driving a Civic.

mhmitszach 05-28-2008 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Arminius (Post 29238)
Hhhmm. Well, my old 92 Escort had a 1.8L engine and died with 320k on it. I think your engine was made by Mazda, but I could very well be mistaken about that. Personally speaking, I always prefer what I already own, if it is working well. I'll never trade something that works well for something else that I don't know too much about.

Keep in mind, I'm presently driving a Civic.

Well I basically took same risk with the escort I have now. Had a rebuilt title. Only problems have been leaking radiator, but a patch fixed that. Obviously new tires and brakes.

I wouldn't be getting rid of the escort though. I'm "selling" it to my parents. So it'd still be available if civic died out.

I'm just more or less waiting on price of civic. If its 1000 or less. This would leave me with at least 600 to put towards any repairs. Which should be plenty to keep it running for good bit longer without any major problems I'm hoping.

Arminius 05-28-2008 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by mhmitszach (Post 29241)
Well I basically took same risk with the escort I have now. Had a rebuilt title. Only problems have been leaking radiator, but a patch fixed that. Obviously new tires and brakes.

I wouldn't be getting rid of the escort though. I'm "selling" it to my parents. So it'd still be available if civic died out.

I'm just more or less waiting on price of civic. If its 1000 or less. This would leave me with at least 600 to put towards any repairs. Which should be plenty to keep it running for good bit longer without any major problems I'm hoping.

Sounds good to me. :thumbup:

PolyOlefin 05-29-2008 04:09 AM

Hondas are much more efficient than most others in real world conditions. The new EPA rating on my car is extremely pessimistic. I can achieve 30+ mpg without really trying.

mhmitszach 05-29-2008 09:53 AM

So slighty better news?

My dad is convinced we'll be able to get it cheaper and that if that happens we'd just buy it and not even worry about "selling" my car to them.

Which in a sense would be a better situation incase the civic is complete crap.

But being completely pessimisitic.

Say suspension is shot, exhaust, or whatever else.

What would you think general prices for repairs in those or other parts of the car?

Another question. Say in the end the investment in the car is 1500 dollars and I can acheieve 45 mpg versus the 35 mpg I get now. At how many miles would I be saving money? I still cannot figure this math out, which isn't good but nevertheless.

Arminius 05-29-2008 03:32 PM

It depends upon how much you drive per year. Assuming you can get a 25% increase in FE, and gas is $4 per gallon, you have a point of reference. Assuming you drive 6k per year, you would save about $134 per year.

mhmitszach 05-30-2008 12:59 AM

Dead.

Wanted at least 1100 for it which is more than I wanted to spend.

Had rust on rear quarter panel and some bondo work too.

If it had under 200k miles or no rust it might have been an option.

ankit 05-30-2008 02:53 PM

That sucks. Keep looking and you will find something that you like eventually.

Arminius 05-30-2008 07:23 PM

You're about the age of my son, so I'll give you the same advice I give him: Make your decisions based upon the math.

mhmitszach 05-30-2008 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Arminius (Post 29835)
You're about the age of my son, so I'll give you the same advice I give him: Make your decisions based upon the math.

Most definitely. I've changed to a new idea. Find an old beat up hatchback to fix up for fun. Put in a d15z1. The good stuff.

But the budget will be way way low so that it will pay for itself in less than a year.

So now the search for a civic shell is on...


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