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Old 05-06-2011, 10:02 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Project Aero Car Trailer

I've become fasinated with the idea of making a super-efficient tow rig after reading some of the great info on this site and others. Y'all have some great ideas, backed up sound research and testing. That's so refreshing to see...

A little background on me: I'm a Mechanical Engineer working for Naval Air Systems Command (I rebuild helicopters). I also race Spec Miata in the southeast, at tracks like Virginia International Raceway (VIR), Carolina Motorsports Park (CMP), Roebling Road Raceway (RRR), Rockingham Speedway, Road Atlanta, and Summit Point. My wife is a budget analyst for the Navy, so she controls my money, both at work and at home! She's also very good at cost/ benefit analyses and things of that nature.

The tow rig: 2004 Chevy 2500HD with a 6.0L gas engine, 4-spd auto, and 4.10 gears. 108k miles, completely stock, and a very competent machine. I've been happy with it thus far. It get 14mpg unloaded at 60mph (2200 rpm), so I pretty much use it only for towing or hauling. I have a tonneau cover that I never use, because it prevents me from putting the ATV or motorcycle in the bed. I actually have it up for sale, so I count its use out. Otherwise, I ride a motorcycle.

The trailer: 24 ft box enclosed (box) trailer. Radiused vertical leading edges, and that's about it. It at least has drop-axels, so it rides lower than most, with about 8 inches of clearance. This isn't always the best, because it scrapes frequently coming into/ out of gas stations. And, as you can imagine, I stop for gas a LOT. Trailer estimated weight is 7,000 lb: 4300lb empty, 2300 lb car, 400 lb tools/ gear.

Current performance numbers: ranging b/w 8.5-10.5mpg (~9.5 avg.) towing at 60mph. Going faster would be really nice, since I live a minimum of 4 1/2 hours away from any track, but it sucks fuel so quickly I can't justify it. I also feel as if I have good power for what I need. Climbing hills is now problem; I could maintain 60mph up a decent hill if I really wanted to. I usually just stick it to about 1/2 to 2/3 throttle and let it slow down as it wants to. I don't feel like I need more power, which is something to say if you're a racecar driver/ sportbike rider!

The project: I think some huge improvements could be made to my setup! If an 18-wheeler, loaded with 80,000 lb can get 7mpg at 60, I'm sure I can do a whole lot better!

1) Streamline the transition between truck and trailer
-add a bed cap/ camper shell, hopefully one that angles up at the rear
-possibly add wings/ fairings to the bed cap to further direct airflow
-add a contoured trailer nose to guide the airflow from the truck to the sides and top of the trailer.

2) Reduce the turbulent wake behind the trailer
-a tail section that is able to be removed/ moved easily to allow ingress/ egress of the car seems like it would be very helpful. I believe what I'm envisioning is called a Kamm back. I'll post a link to a commercial product I've seen when I find it.

3) Operate the truck as close as possible to its highest efficiency range.
-difficult to determine, since I can't seem to find a BSFC chart for anything close to my engine.
-Judging by the relatively high throttle use required, the somewhat-high RPM, and the relatively small drop in mpg I'm guessing I'm pretty close as-is.

4) Change gearing as is appropriate after reducing aerodynamic drag.
-Most likely a 3.73 or 3.55 gear. This would obviously help non-towing fuel economy as well.

5) Use a more efficient drive train (most likely not happening until the current units fail).
-swap to a diesel. The OEM diesel is a 6.6L unit with WAY more power than I need. I think it'd be fun to install something not intended for this truck, like a cummins or mercedes diesel. :-) Suggestions on specific engines and where to get them?
-manual transmission. Oh, how I'd love this. Complete control, more gears, more efficient. I'd like to do this with any engine. If I could have found my truck with a manual, I would have!
-convert to E85. I'm not convinced this is a good idea, but it sure would be cool. Since E85 is cheaper, and has a higher octane rating, it might work. I've tossed around the ideas of increasing the compression ratio of the engine, and would definetly need to add a turbo. I'd also need to upgrade the fuel system to handle the extra flow rate required, and reprogram the electronics to expect the correct fuel. Also, I'd have to bring a large (100 gal?) auxiliary fuel tank, as E85 stations are few and far between. Luckily, there's one a few miles from my house, but there isn't another one for 100 miles or so. Running E85, I could potentially have more power on tap (turbocharging), plus run the engine at a more efficient zone by requiring more airflow for the same power output, and getting that airflow by turbocharged/ intercooled induction. I've heard that starting an E85 engine in the cold can be difficult as well. This one's a big investment and a big risk, with a lot of factors involved!

So why post this thread? I'd like to get y'all's comments and suggestions on improvements to be made. Keep in mind the truck has a large cooling demand, both for the brakes, and the engine/ tranny. The whole point of improvements is to save money in the long run, so without a business analysis, no projects are going to go anywhere! The queen says NO!

I need the most help finding an accurate method for estimating the fuel savings to be gained by making these modifications, so that a return-on-investment calculation can be run.

I also want to be able to share with other towing folks what I do and if it works. I searched and didn't find anyone else describing their experiences towing a large trailer, but they're out there!

Soon to come: sketches of my rough ideas for fairings and aero improvements.

-Matt McBride

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Old 05-06-2011, 02:08 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Hi Matt and welcome to Ecomodder. If you search for posts by KamperBob you may find some info about towing trailers. Your ideas #1 and #2 are on the right track. Articulated gap fillers between the tow vehicle and trailer are better, and of course a tail cone.

You posted all your questions under "aerodynamics". You may want to split parts of this into another thread. Is there any chance of trading your slushbox gasser for a diesel with a manual tranny? You could run a biodiesel blend most of the year in your area and this would be a better tow vehicle IMHO.
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The power needed to push an object through a fluid increases as the cube of the velocity. Mechanical friction increases as the square, so increasing speed requires progressively more power.
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Old 05-06-2011, 02:25 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Sharing similar concepts

Aero mods on the trailer package. Must first address the truck fairing. There is a retractable hinged top to serve as a bow fairing. Many truck cab designs use this retracting fairing combination. To seal off as much gap between the trailer & fairing, there is another cone fairing/storage on the top front on the trailer. An adaptation of curved profile is added on top of the flat trailer top. And at the end there are hinged foldaway panels that extend the trailer for your on road long-tail configuration. Front & rear spats for the bogeys, and wheel covers compliment the whole package.

Note: Don-Bur Teardrop design is a vigorously protected & registered design.


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That trailer looks like a monster. How tall would that thing be? I always had the idea of designing a trailer that could adjust the height. Somehow split down the sides so the top could slowly drop down making the trailer as much as 1/2 the height of a standard trailer depending on current load. Would probably work well with the flap you have on the truck if you made it adjustable. I worked at a pasta plant for several years watching trailers with only 1 pallet high go out, would make a big difference if the trailer was that tall as well.

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The diesel manual would help a lot. My last 2 tanks without the trailer have been 19 MPG.

The fairing in the above and the kammback are good ideas. Switching to a longer but very square back trailer (toy hauler) actually increased my FE from a smaller rounded trailer. I put that to better flow seperation in the rear.

I had a deflector on a prior rig that helps, but don't stand it up too much. I think one that goes closer to the trailer as above would really help.

I can't understand why my MPG's are so low..........
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What is this and does it work? Is it all photoshop?

Seems to me, unless there is a need for all that trailer height (it looks extra tall to me) they haven't accomplished much because doesn't the rear wake area WITH THE PARTIAL BOATTAIL look every bit as large as the ass end of a regular trailer?

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Seems like this was a photoshop.
When it first was created was for the 'gap filler on a T-100 with trailer' thread. (Yes I butchered the title)
Increasing the frontal area will negate the aero gains.
Again, the fairing and the rear Kamm should help. Same as NASA's rig.

I can't understand why my MPG's are so low..........
21,000lb, 41' Toy Haulers are rough on FE!
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Old 05-07-2011, 09:48 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Hi All,

The picture looks like a photoshop to me, as the trailer does not have a front support wheel.
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Originally Posted by mateospeed View Post
1) Streamline the transition between truck and trailer
Those ideas would work.

2) Reduce the turbulent wake behind the trailer
Easy and functional : Scania trailer streamlining

Intended for big rigs, but you could gain by implementing some of these ideas as well :
Platform for Aerodynamic Road Transport
Cab Platform for Aerodynamic Road Transport

Has anyone seen these before :
VGs on the slope of a boattail.
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Originally Posted by Frank Lee View Post

What is this and does it work? Is it all photoshop?

Seems to me, unless there is a need for all that trailer height (it looks extra tall to me) they haven't accomplished much because doesn't the rear wake area WITH THE PARTIAL BOATTAIL look every bit as large as the ass end of a regular trailer?
Just what I was thinking. If the trailer is specifically to haul the Miata, it doesn't need to be any bigger than the Miata, does it? (Assume gear & spares go in the truck bed.) So build it to have an aero teardrop shape going back, with clamshell top that opens up for access.

So what you have is a flat bed that carries the Miata, a vertical riser at the front edge that mounts gap seals, and two aerodynamic fairing half-shells that just pop off. (I do wish I could draw...)

PS: Maybe this is a stupid question, but why not just drive the Miata to the track?

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