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redneck 01-06-2023 09:44 AM

Ram 1500 Revolution - First Look
 
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The Ram 1500 Revolution Is A Three-Row EV Wondertruck For The Future


https://www.theautopian.com/ram-1500-revolution/


https://i.postimg.cc/TpfDY7zw/C61-C1...4264-F1-F3.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/YvmGd5gd/4-ECBB...-C7522-F84.jpg

Click on the link for more pictures and info.


Interesting concept. :thumbup:



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redpoint5 01-06-2023 12:09 PM

Interesting. My requirement for the next vehicle is 6+ seating.

The problem with many 3rd row vehicles is that you can't put car seats in the back row, meaning they have to be in the middle. Then, you can't access the back row because you can't fold the seatbacks forward to access them.

I'm not taking car seats in and out every time the other seats are occupied.

I just like bench seating in trucks. Don't know why that went away. There's no reason for a shifter in the middle in an automatic, meaning there's no reason to have a console either.

freebeard 01-06-2023 03:09 PM

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....meaning there's no reason to have a console either.
More cupholders!

Piotrsko 01-06-2023 03:16 PM

Bench seats aren't as comfy during high G Manuevers the newest participants attempt in their suv/truck.

redpoint5 01-06-2023 03:25 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNxUZx6GNaU&t=342s

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Originally Posted by Piotrsko (Post 678755)
Bench seats aren't as comfy during high G Manuevers the newest participants attempt in their suv/truck.

I'm the only person I've ever seen take a corner in a truck in a manner that produces preceptable lateral acceleration (though I saw one flipped onto the roof in the center of a cloverleaf onramp once). 99.99% of truck owners do 20 MPH over the speed limit when the the road is straight, and below the suggested cornering speed when things turn.

I've done fine on bench seats pushing the cornering limits.

Make them buckets if you must, but 3 across belongs up front.

Piotrsko 01-07-2023 10:11 AM

Didn't catch the implied sarcasm, then?

And no you aren't the only person attempting high lateral forces while turning. You should follow me screwing with low performace drivers in porsches on circular off ramps in the F250 @ 4 ton. I get suprising side force, loud tire noises and sometimes brake fade but so far no vehicle damage.

redpoint5 01-07-2023 12:11 PM

Missed that.

Drives me nuts when people have high performance cars and are only comfortable going fast when it's straight. Big deal, a Prius will do 105 on the straight.

My perception is that big lifted truck drivers are the ones doing 90 on the interstate, geting 10 MPG, meanwhile they take a 45 MPH posted corner (which can be taken at 55 wet, pulling a trailer) at 35 MPH.

Piotrsko 01-07-2023 06:24 PM

Long time ago i was really into big wide tires. Got over that quickly driving on wet or snowy roads. The pinto with M50x15 rears just skittered around so bad it stopped being fun even at stoplights whereas the stock superbug was unstoppable until the snow went deeper than 8-12"

freebeard 01-07-2023 07:08 PM

I put belted bias F60-15s on my 1957 when they first came out. On gravel you could turn or brake, but turning and braking did neither.

With 145s on 5.5" rims, my Type III could lure lifted trucks into right-angle turns.

The 165/60-15s on the Superbeetle provoke terminal oversteer like a Porsche.

cRiPpLe_rOoStEr 01-07-2023 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by redpoint5 (Post 678744)
I just like bench seating in trucks. Don't know why that went away. There's no reason for a shifter in the middle in an automatic, meaning there's no reason to have a console either.

Finding way for one more airbag doesn't seem to be much of a sales argument, as some random infotainment system with a display larger than my TV does for most people nowadays :turtle:

freebeard 01-11-2023 05:11 PM

I watched this whole thing from Munro Live to find out where the third row seating is hiding and they mention it but don't show how it works. :(

Really Revolutionary or a Stellantis Fantasy? Ram EV Concept at CES 2023

OTOH, it has a doghouse frunk, like the Bollinger. They don't see the appeal to dog [or maybe cat?} owners.

aerohead 01-12-2023 01:00 PM

RAM
 
I suspect that Ford and GM product committees experienced a #10 pucker when they first glimpsed the Revolution.
A master stroke for Stellantis to be late to the party.
They've knocked it out of the park!

redpoint5 01-12-2023 01:07 PM

I've been seeing Stellantis mentioned many places recently, which is odd because I've never heard of them until very recently.

freebeard 01-12-2023 03:16 PM

2021 is very recently, it just doesn't seem that way anynore.
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Stellantis
stellantis.com
Stellantis N.V. is a multinational automotive manufacturing corporation formed in 2021 on the basis of a 50–50 cross-border merger between the Italian-American conglomerate Fiat Chrysler Automobiles and the French PSA Group. The company is headquartered in Amsterdam. Wikipedia

cRiPpLe_rOoStEr 01-12-2023 08:45 PM

It's also impressive how Stellantis is being more efficient at managing the overlap between so many brands on most markets.

ME_Andy 01-12-2023 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by aerohead (Post 679035)
I suspect that Ford and GM product committees experienced a #10 pucker when they first glimpsed the Revolution.

I think they're all going to sell as many electric trucks as they can produce so it doesn't matter too much. Supply limited, in other words.

ME_Andy 01-12-2023 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by freebeard (Post 679012)
I watched this whole thing from Munro Live to find out where the third row seating is hiding

Me too!

cRiPpLe_rOoStEr 01-17-2023 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by ME_Andy (Post 679069)
I think they're all going to sell as many electric trucks as they can produce so it doesn't matter too much. Supply limited, in other words.

When it comes to Ford, as it has the successful experience of the F-150 which has been the best-selling vehicle in the USDM, there is not much motivation to depart too radically from its traditional design, while GM already seemed to try departing from the regular Silverado. Well, maybe the previous experience with hybrid Silverados back in a day when hybrid trucks weren't taken so seriously, might've influenced GM to take a different path than Ford. Stellantis has OTOH some developments in the EV field which might also have benefitted the Ram 1500 Revolution, even though electric versions of its European are not different in appearance from their ICE-powered counterparts.

Hersbird 02-15-2023 02:46 AM

Well I put a $100 reservation on a Rev. Figure the Lightning I put a reservation on has price crept from $41k to now $58k with zero improvements since I put the $100 down on that. I will wait and see what the Rev ends up with and at least I got in on the 2nd day of opening reservations.

I like the simplification from the concept. Simple means affordable more often than not. Plus it's not like the regular Ram is bad looking.

Edit: Also the super bowl ad was the best of the year. Marketing over at Chrysler or whatever it has been renamed over the years, is always the best. Remember "Made in Detroit" super bowl ad? That was for a crappy Chrysler 200 pre redesign, but was maybe the best supebowl ad of all time.

aerohead 02-16-2023 10:16 AM

3rd-row seating
 
In an inside view of the cabin, it looked like a track system on the floor could accept any number of seating configurations. 'Plug-and-play.' sorta.:rolleyes:


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