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Old 09-16-2014, 01:25 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Renault Eolab, the car of 2020

Was reading this today on the Top Gear website. The French competitor against the VW XL1.

Top Gear drives the Renault Eolab - BBC Top Gear


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Old 09-16-2014, 04:52 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Cool! Thanks for posting it.

Notable from the Top Gear review, for aero geeks:

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The Eolab has active aerodynamics - including a deployable front splitter, 'ears' that detach the airflow from the rear bumper, hubcaps that form a flat disc when no brake cooling is needed, and a self-levelling suspension that drops ride height at speed. With those in their slipperiest settings the Cd is a startlingly low 0.227, but that's only a part of the story. Eolab also has a minuscule frontal area of just 2 square metres, so total drag is tiny.
The faux A-pillars are a bit bizarre, but we expect bizarre styling elements from the French, non?
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That video is perfect! It shows me what I wanted to know most without even playing it!

The smooth wheel covers!

As usual, the comments are almost exclusively trolling. It looks like Ebola! I would rather have Ebola than drive this!

I would rather have an Eolab than his opinion.

Seating for four, an actual trunk, and at least as good mileage as the XL1, but on gas!
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Love the "suicide doors" (in the TOP GEAR pictures).

Wonder if those vents behind the front wheels are more "functional" than "cosmetic"?
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the car weighs just 400 kilograms – 880 pounds
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The car weighs only 400 kg
That is a [EDIT: Renault's own, thx. Vman455] copy-paste-edit-publish bug. it is 400 kg less than a Clio.
Still impressive, if it is true. [EDIT: it isnt! Thx again]

Btw that link to Practical Motoring provides a nice summary of what they've done to it.
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Old 09-17-2014, 10:59 AM   #7 (permalink)
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The confusion over the weight arises from Renault's own press kit (I went to their website and downloaded it just now). In the introduction, they mistakenly write, "A weight saving programme brought the car's mass down to just 400kg." But later on, in the subsection on weight, they write, "Eolab tips the scales at 955kg" and claim that weight several times, as well as a weight savings of 400kg from some unknown number. On Renault's blog, they claim, "EOLAB weighs around 400kg less than an ordinary B-segment vehicle." It's worth noting that the weight of the Eolab (2101lbs, for us standard folk) is slightly less than a base European Clio (980kg/2156lbs).
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So it is heavier than a 15 year old Honda Insight hybrid?
But it has a rear bench and the old Insight does not.
And it may be more efficient, if that is not just due to the plugin charging.

BTW, what ordinary B segment car weighs in at 1355 kg?
Most C segment cars are lighter than that.

It is still very interesting from an engineering standpoint but the impressiveness has suffered.
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Here is a LOT more info:

Green Car Congress: Renault presents the 235 mpg EOLAB prototype; plug-in

The front spoiler is active, the wheel covers are active, and the rear wheel strakes are active.

Cd is 0.235, frontal area is 2.00m2 / 21.5278 sq ft, so the CdA is 0.470 m2 / 5.059 sq ft



Lots of excellent pictures: http://www.boldride.com/ride/2014/renault-eolab-concept

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