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Review of OpenFOAM: free CFD
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OpenFOAM has been mentioned once or twice in this forum before, but it hasn't been given a fair shake. It is a rather general-purpose open-source numerical solver, with capabilities ranging from chemical reactions (think ICE cumbustion simulation) to 3d wind-tunnel CFD.
I think the short story is that it works and it's free; it's just a much steeper learning curve than commercial CFD packages that have GUI's. Here is a screen-shot. I ran a tutorial which imported a 3d model of this motorbike and ran a (computationally simplistic - probably inaccurate - in this case) wind-tunnel CFD. Then I opened it in the paraviewer and put in a transverse slice and stream-tracer (a virtual smoke-wand). http://ecomodder.com/forum/attachmen...1&d=1379864648 That's about all I've been able to do so far. My goal is to be able to write as simple a tutorial as possible describing running a car and mods through an OpenFOAM virtual wind-tunnel CFD. Given how far away I am from that goal, and how low a priority this is for me, I hesitate to post now - I may not get there for another 3-12 months - but maybe this will stimulate some interest. Learning curve, prerequisite, initial thoughts:
OpenFOAM in literature
Cheers, Chris |
I use OpenFOAM daily. I can help people out pretty easily set up a case properly (not just to get pretty pictures).
My linux machine use to look like this: http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/...untuScreen.png What a simple iteration case looks like after solving: http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/...caseScreen.png Simple surface mesh of simplified Scion FRS: http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/...rfaceMesh1.png Close up of mesh generation with snappyHexMesh: http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/...rfaceMesh2.png **Not the best mesh generation provided in that picture...just for representation** Semi case I worked on: http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/...ps957b354a.jpg FRS case: http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/...ps0adfcfc2.jpg Top Fuel Dragster: http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/...ps2e43ff64.jpg I can help start a tutorial if needed also. I have been using OpenFOAM for about 2 years and using it for aero consulting for the last year. |
Sweet, some expertise!
Do you have enough posts to attach a sample snappyHexMeshDict (ecomodder accepts zip files up to 97.7kb, maybe I should ask for all your dictionary files for one case, if possible)? [PM me if needed; we can do a dropbox or setup an FTP folder on my server or something, if that helps.] |
I think I can attach files now. The snappyHexMeshDict is only around 3kB so I bet I can attach them all. I think what I will do is set up a specific case for my Golf I am going to start running cfd on. I will share my files for that for everybody to see and then it will also have the ability to see how I analyze the data. I cannot share the exact files on the cases I consulted on. I will get working on that this week between other projects :cool:
Let me know if you run into any trouble before then on specific problems :thumbup: |
Great examples. Just to add that there are a couple of native Windows port of openFoam available - try to avoid cygwin ports as computational time really increases.
Free one at: https://code.google.com/p/bluecfd-singlecore/ - it does not support multiple core though. |
My challenge is that the hardware I have available to run Linux is pretty old.
My other challenge is getting my holey and rough SketchUp model into a file format that OpenFOAM can import. |
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I can't really help with the rough part of the SketchUp model, but for the holey part there are a number of things you can do: - Leave it holey and cross your finger (it works sometime); - Fix it using the openFoam utilities; - [my preference] Fix it using Netfabb Studio Basic (free) netfabb Basic - Fix it using another mesh tool such as MeshLab. |
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I was wondering if there was a single document covering issues such as:
- geometry: What simplifications are "acceptable"? - size of the computational domain, incl blockage ratio, number of length before and after; - mesh such as first layer size, number of layer in boundary layer, mesh resolution in near and far field; - boundary conditions; - physical, incl turbulence models, and numerical models; - typical validation models; - and ideally a discussion on limitations. If you have access to the Ercoftac BPG, I would be looking for something similar but applied to the automotive industry. |
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This is a tough one to answer because it just depends. It depends what the end goal of the project is and what kind of accuracy you are looking for. Example: You could have a much more simplified model if you are testing basic front end designs, than say if you are testing underbody flow for engine cooling. ***My usual simplifications: simplified underbody (not just flat however), simplified suspension and brakes, simplified engine (if I even have an engine(ony when using porous flow through a radiator)), and I am sure I am forgetting a few others. 2. size of the computational domain, incl blockage ratio, number of length before and after The size I usually use is 5x length in front of car, 15-25x length behind, and 2-5x length on sides depending on the project. I do not know if this is industry standard or not, just what I picked up from one of my professors. I never thought of calculating blockage ratio however since I have only used that when looking at a windtunnel. Computational domain depends really and everybody will give you something different. I think you need at least 5 million for normal automotive, but more like 25 million for a complicated open wheel car. 3. mesh such as first layer size, number of layer in boundary layer, mesh resolution in near and far field I use yplus for this. I just keep a yplus that is acceptable for the turbalance model I am using. 4. boundary conditions The normal for this I guess. I do rotating wall velocity for the wheels. The walls are set to the internal velocity field so wall velocity to not see boundary layer growth. 5. physical, incl turbulence models, and numerical models For turbulance models, I usually use k-omega SST because I like how it correlates pretty well but takes longer to converge than say a k-epsilon. I would say that the three most common for steady state analysis is k-epsilon, k-omega, and k-omega sst. LES and DES are becomming more popular however with computing power increased. I will occasionally do a transient analysis, but most cases I can get away with steady state. I normally use a steady state incompressible solver except if I need transient or compressible (dragster). 6. typical validation models The ahmed model is the most common and what I have used. I have also been able to validate a case using a windtunnel also. 7. and ideally a discussion on limitations Really just depends on the knowlege of the engineer, time, and computing power. Plus a little common sense I hope that is clear. I could go further on some things but that is the jist. Plus I have a case to setup :D |
Thanks a lot for the info. I seem to understand that your best practice are derived from experience, rather than taken from literature - although most looks pretty much common sense. Is this correct?
A quick question on the Ahmed body. My understanding is that the measurements are focused on the pressure in the rear body (particularly on flow field vs rear angle and flow detachment). How are you fining correlation between k-omega SST and experiment? I was under the impression that the "standard" was linear k-epsilon with non-equilibrium wall function. What is your experience? |
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Yes the Ahmed body is to study the separation of flow on the "hatch"/slant of the bluff body. It is also good way to study the wake. You are correct in saying that the the k-epsilon is considered standard and it also correlates better to the windtunnel data from the ahmed study. In most cases I ran with different turbulance models, k-epsilon showed a slightly higher drag and lift value. This correlated closer to the actual measured drag and lift. After that, you might be wondering then why I don't use k-epsilon. The reason is from talking to more experience people than myself about its correlation to real world motorsports cases. I discussed this in detail with one. Basically they noticed that the k-omega sst model worked better in cases with high separation. Since most actual cars and racecars have a good amount of separation of flow, it usually is gets better results. ***Other people will disagree however since I know many who still use k-epsilon*** Also remember, it is just a mathematical model to represent the chaos that is turbulence. |
Thanks again. If you don't mind me asking:
- Are the pictures you posted earlier generated with EnSight? They did not look like the typical ParaView pictures associated with openFoam simulations; - What hardware and simulation turn-around time do you use of a typical simulation? Is it in-house hardware? Thanks. |
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I use a small cluster of workstations obviously running linux. Depending on the size and convergence anywhere from 18-48 hours. It is in-house, but I did try amazons ec2. It seems you have extensive knowledge of cfd and openfoam, what is your experience? |
You would need to clarify what do you mean by experience? Experience as in "what is your opinion of ..." or as in "how many years have you been doing...".
To keep to the thread, my experience with openFoam is quite positive (although limited to the last few years). I tend to limit myself to the existing solvers - I am not too much of a compiler of other people software (particularly when there is a lot of dependencies - although I am trying to compile ParaView at the moment). I am using openFoam on Windows (mainly) and ubuntu (on amazon ec2 and a local very old computer). My application field was focused on HVAC applications up until last year, but has been focused on car aerodynamic recently. My centre of interest is in the software development and coupling of tools together. Part of my recent projects includes: - Khamsin, a SketchUp Plugin for CFD Modelling - which couples to openFoam as one of the CFD engine; - Aerodynamic on Demand - a CFD based aerodynamic calculator for cars again based on openFoam and using amazon ec2; - Khamsin Virtual Racecar Challenge - a virtual racing car challenge (for fun). Feel free to check my profile on LinkedIn if you want a full detail of my experience. |
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The overwhelming feedback is that it takes a few hours and a bit of frustration to get the setup right with Khamsin - my apologies. See CFD With Sketchup - YouTube for example. Both of the above are unaffiliated. Quote:
Sketchup vs Solidworks: I will doing a web presentation on some of the limitations of SketchUp for CFD applications that I have identified while using it in the future. A main one is its inability of properly handling curves... Best way to keep informed would be through twitter @HibouSoftware or Google+ (info@hibouscientificsoftware.com.au). |
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