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89HF 02-05-2010 11:03 PM

rolling resistance and friction coefficient?
 
Somebody posted a method for estimating the rolling resistance of a tire in another thread but it didn't seem very user friendly. Does anyone know if there is a connection between a tire's rolling resistance and its friction coefficient?

CapriRacer 02-06-2010 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by 89HF (Post 159404)
Somebody posted a method for estimating the rolling resistance of a tire in another thread but it didn't seem very user friendly. Does anyone know if there is a connection between a tire's rolling resistance and its friction coefficient?

Yes, and I've talked about it in detail here:

Barry's Tire Tech

Short version: There is technology triangle between Rolling Resistance, Traction, and Treadwear. In order to improve one, you have to sacrifice one of the other (or both).

89HF 02-06-2010 03:13 PM

thanks, at first glance, it looks like I can learn a few things from that link. However, since the friction coefficient of a tire is fairly easy to determine (by doing a drag test for example) is there any way to take that number and translate it into rolling resistance?

moonmonkey 02-06-2010 04:32 PM

if you are looking at lrr tires, the rr is avialible on many tires,on the manufactures websites and other places.

gone-ot 02-06-2010 06:32 PM

...from the number crunching I did, that "flat" spot (contact patch) area on the bottom of the tire roughly equates to a 3% reduction in the mathematical radius of the tire.

...I got ~97% values for the 16" diameter Goodyear, Firestone/Bridgestone and Michelin tires that I analyzed.

...how'd I do it? Just backsolved from their posted tire-revolutions-per-mile against their published static (unloaded) tire diameters.

CapriRacer 02-07-2010 06:34 AM

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Originally Posted by 89HF (Post 159527)
thanks, at first glance, it looks like I can learn a few things from that link. However, since the friction coefficient of a tire is fairly easy to determine (by doing a drag test for example) is there any way to take that number and translate it into rolling resistance?

No You have 3 variables and only one of them would be known.


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