searching for new vehicle
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I am currently driving a Renault Twizy. My hopes concerning efficient transportation have been dissapointed so i need a new vehicle. I have had the twizy now for 15 month and drove 27.000 km. I paid for "fuel" (=electricity) less than 100 €, but the other costs are just too high. The brakes get worn out too fast and so do the tires. The twizy has a lot of issues and has to go. I read about the Honda Innova and Honda Wave and got really excited. Less than 2 L/100 km petrol, 2000 € new buying price, low insurance costs. My girlfriend and i travel a lot and i dont know if that is possible with such a vehicle. We did two europe-trips with my twizy (from Germany to Great Britain and France) so little space and problematical weather conditions are not bothering us. But we have to carry some luggage (tent, sleeping bags etc). How much luggage could you fit on a Honda Wave? I also thought about buying two Waves, but two will consume the same fuel of a little car. A VW Up! Ecofuel or Mii CNG/Citigo CNG would be great but with 10.000 € its too expensive. Also a regular Up! or a Mitsubishi Space Star would fit, but they are also too expensive. The benefits of a car would be that we could sleep in it, would be safe from rain etc and could travel more comfortable. Maybe you have some suggestions about a suitable vehicle. Some efficient vehicle between Wave and Space Star. I nearly went to the next Honda dealer today to buy a Wave. I was so excited to be able to drive with 300 € for fuel to China. :turtle: greetings from Germany, peak |
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The benefit of the CBF is that it's a manual shift bike rather than an automatic scooter. You could change the gearing if you want to. Another bike that's been pretty solid from what I've heard is the Suzuki TU250 Volty - also came in 125cc versions - it's been around a while, so you should be able to pick one up cheap on the 2nd hand market. Quote:
A 350 cc once was a big engine ... a long time ago. But 2-up + luggage, is going to put some strain on the bike. Then again, if you see what they do with them in south east Asia, they can take a lot of abuse. Quote:
The Seat is the cheapest to buy. If I had to pay for all the fuel - I've gotten a 500 euro Gutschein from a CNG supplier when I bought the up! and you can get even better bonuses in Germany - I'd be paying around 3,2 euro/100km. If you get 2L from the Honda, you'll pay about as much for fuel as petrol is far more expensive. If you took the same roads you'd be realistically limited to with a 110/125cc bike 2 passengers + luggage, you'd be on the roads the up/mii/citigo likes best: Landesstraßen. 165 or 175 14" tyres are dead cheap too - a lot cheaper in the long run than bike tyres. Quote:
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What i am looking for is a twizy-like car with a combustion engine. I could buy an isetta but it doesnt have an up to date fuel-consumption. Arent there any Velomobiles with a little petrol engine? I am sure you could get a consumption of less than 1 L/100 km with that. The CUB-bikes are very tempting. Just put 2000 € on the table and off you go. But you cant sleep in it :rolleyes: |
If you're considering to take road trips with a considerable amount of luggage, anything under 250cc would probably not be so suitable.
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I had some other ideas. Cant you take a go-kart and put a velomobile-like cover on it? Or are there already stock-go-karts with a consumption of 2 L/100 km? I also came across this: Elio 3-wheeler discussion thread That's the type of vehicle i am looking for. PS: cant link the elio-thread "To be able to post links or images your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 2 posts." |
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How about a Smart for Two - 2. hand? Should be possible to find a used one to reasonable money?
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