Second-gen Stop-Start technology coming 2013
I think Stop-Start tech should be required on all ICE powered cars within a year or two.
Valeo's second-gen stop-start technology coming to 1M diesel Peugeots, Citroëns by 2013 — Autoblog Green http://www.blogcdn.com/green.autoblo...artsschema.jpg |
Too bad the EPA testing doesn't show any time stopped idling. This really is the reason we don't have start/stop here yet. I think Darin posted something a while ago about this and Nissan commenting on the EPA testing.
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I can't wait for someone to hack it for ecomodder use: manually adjustable kick-in speed. Tailor it your own P&G needs.
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Yeah, I hope someone makes a add-on i-StARS type kit for the Fords..
Could really help out with city driving.. (Which is about 90% of my driving these days). Buying that i-StARS equipped car is sure to invoke Murphy's Law to insure that you never hit another long red light again.. :rolleyes: |
And would that be such a bad thing? :D :D :D
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Here's a little bit more info
Valeo sets hybrid stop-start solutions |
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Wow! That's a lot of reading when you follow the links.. Some very interesting comments about the technology and, the politics of the technology. One commenter noted that if the EPA tested with real-life stops embedded in the MPG tests, Honda and Prius type hybrids would rule, since they use zero fuel while stopped.. (I guess the same is true of the Ford hybrids). To do it right, you need to dump the small starter and alternator, for a larger more robust motor-generator system. Hence the price tag. Not really a cheap retrofit path for the older cars.. I guess maybe I'll keep doing it the old fashion way.. Just drive less.. :thumbup: |
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As far as a DIY retrofit, I'm sure you could fit it to any car that has a big enough 12V battery. I assume this system does "regenerative alternatoring": charging your battery at a few hundred amps while you brake. Just wait for someone to crash a car that has this system, then tell the U-pull that you're there to buy an alternator for your Peugeot. $15 later, you have MHYGALE (Mild HYbrid GenerALisablE). |
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There was an article in Road & Track way back (c. 1973/1975?) about Toyota's 'Engine Automatic Stop-Start System'. When the car stopped for more than a second or two the engine turned off, re-starting automatically (If I recall correctly) when the foot came off the brake. The demonstrator (IIRC again) was a Corona.
And then Toyota spends an entire generation beavering away on this and myriad other technologies and we got the Prius. Almost like they knew the future was coming someday. |
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http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...px-ESX3_sm.jpg Toyota and Honda created hybrids out of *fear* that we were going to pass them by. Shame on us. CarloSW2 |
Which goes to show the creative value of paranoia. Or obsessiveness. Or something.
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It appears that a few months ago Citroën started selling cars (C3 and C4 Grand Picasso) with the second generation stop-start system mated to the 1.6 liter HDi engine. Here is some info on it:
Press information on PSA's e-HDi EDIT: Here are two interesting things about this Stop-Start set-up:
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