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luvit 01-19-2010 07:41 PM

single person cars, the list
 
contribute to the single person car list.
  • vintage cars are welcome if easily found on ebay, so check ebay.
  • no peddals, no 3-seaters. no motorcycles
  • 3-wheel scooters count. must drive 45mph minimum (72kph).
  • 2-seaters are ok, sometimes that's the only option for cargo space.
  • no prototypes. we want cars that are readily available.
  • $20K or less. we're building a list that's affordable for the common commuter. something equivalent to the cost of a normal car or for much less.
  • for the sake of this forum, add a pic http://ecomodder.com/forum/images/ed...nsertimage.gif, add a source link http://ecomodder.com/forum/images/editor/createlink.gif.
these restrictions are being edited on the fly to ensure practical use.

luvit 01-19-2010 07:42 PM

running list:

Internal Combustion Engine (ICE)
ICE.. AutoMoto, 97kph/60mph....83mpg , 2,700 ./ $ 3,800... AutoMoto
ICE.. ScootCoupe, ......55mph....55mpg ............... $ 6,500... ScootCoupe


Electric Vehicle (EV)
EV.... Harvey Coachworks, 45mph... 40miles .......... $ 9,295... BugE
EV.... Harvey Coachworks, 45mph.. 120miles ......... $12,695... BugE XR
EV.... Harvey Coachworks, 65mph.. 100miles ......... $12,695... BugE XRT
.

luvit 01-19-2010 07:50 PM

2009 Lumeneo Smera
http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:r...mera_L_700.jpghttp://www.lumeneo.fr

AutoMoto
http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:u...e-automoto.jpghttp://www.theautomoto.com/

Cd 01-19-2010 08:13 PM

You can be like Golmember and ride one of these : http://www.hightechscience.org/Sparr...dmember_1b.JPG

Welcome to Myers Motors : Transform Your Driving. Transform Your World

The irony is that Mike Myers ( a.k.a."Austin Powers" ) used a Myers Motors Corbin Sparrow in the movie.

RobertSmalls 01-19-2010 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by luvit (Post 155360)
2-seaters[/COLOR] are ok, sometimes that's the only option for cargo space.

That line confuses me. Does this one qualify?

http://ecomodder.com/forum/attachmen...1&d=1263952091

There are three windmills in the background, I swear! I'll get a better picture next time I'm in South Buffalo.

There's also this car: http://ecomodder.com/forum/showthrea...-ll-11803.html

Frank Lee 01-19-2010 09:08 PM

A list of single person cars with two-seaters. :confused:

And what is it with the word "pedal" and derivatives thereof? ect. ! :rolleyes:

OK, don't mind me, just had to vent that out, carry on.

Frank Lee 01-19-2010 09:23 PM

Add my Tempo to the list- all the seats were out except for the driver's.

I suppppose any word could be made bigger if you throw enough letttters at it. :rolleyes:

RobertSmalls 01-20-2010 09:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by luvit (Post 155375)
is that an insight?
i'm unhappy they make them look like normal cars now.

Yes, that's my daily driver, a 2000 Honda Insight. No, they don't make them anymore. And yeah, I guess it looks like a normal car when you park it next to the Goldmember. But park it next to a Civic, Malibu, or Durango, and the average man on the street thinks it looks odd.

If you want to come up with a list of "single-person cars", you need to define what a "single person" vehicle is. I say, it has seating for one, and was originally equipped to seat one. Not two. Otherwise the Chevrolet Corvette and half of Porsche's lineup qualifies, along with a hundred other boring cars.

Now you need to define "car". I say a car has more than two wheels, and a fully enclosed cabin. A car can also travel at highway speeds. Thus a golf cart with doors is not a car, nor is a neighborhood electric vehicle.

So, the Daihatsu Midget is the only "single-person car" that I'm aware of. The Peel P50 and Peel Trident would qualify if you shoehorned a modern two-cylinder into the engine bay.

SentraSE-R 01-20-2010 12:36 PM

Bunch of them here. Check out the Owosso Pulse.http://thekneeslider.com/images/pulse.jpg

jamesqf 01-20-2010 12:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RobertSmalls (Post 155488)
I say a car has more than two wheels, and a fully enclosed cabin.

Well, that lets out my old Austin-Healey Sprite :-( And a bunch of other cars which, if they weren't strictly 1-person cars, were sure fun to drive.

Besides, a car has to have somewhere for the dog to sit, otherwise I might as well ride a motorcycle.

SentraSE-R 01-20-2010 12:41 PM

The Carver One.

Christ 01-20-2010 12:47 PM

^^^ Isn't a car, according to DOT.

Nice link for the motorcycle powered cars, by the way. I saved it.

Laurentiu 01-20-2010 12:59 PM

The "MILA" concept, powered by CNG:

http://c0378172.cdn.cloudfiles.racks...0090581537.jpg

LINK

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The "Electric One-Person Car"

http://www.instablogsimages.com/imag...2/car_6697.jpg

LINK

luvit 01-20-2010 05:52 PM

alright, i've updated the OP expectations.
Quote:

  • $20K or lower. bottom line, i want to build a list that's affordable for the common commuter. something equivalent to the cost of a normal car or for much less.

i'll be adding some of the contributions to 'the list' as soon as i scout ecomodder threads.

bgd73 01-20-2010 06:40 PM

I am a single person, have been for some time.

I drive a subaru.

seats 5 japanese or 1 american. ok j/k.

The single driver cars are evil, like scooters. even a scooter at tiny cc doubled is a yugo seating 3 cramped, and whatever...

power for what is max returned is efficient.
single seat cars. why. why why...:rolleyes:

I'd rather drive frank lee's bicycle. :thumbup:

luvit 01-20-2010 07:27 PM

i'd buy this. some models are enclosed.
Scoot Coupe
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_iN6_nIJQcb...s400/scoot.bmphttp://pk.b5z.net/i/u/6023538/i/scoot-coupe.jpg

Christ 01-20-2010 07:30 PM

Me too... are we including trikes in the car thing, even though DOT calls them motorcycles?

If we are, I'd just about buy any one of them, given the money.

luvit 01-20-2010 07:44 PM

this list is flexible. really.
1 person, plus cargo space.. even if it's a 2 passenger.
i think i like limiting it to easily available cars, and affordable.
i'll update the rules again. -- sorry, i cause such a confusing gray-area on the list.

edit, 3 wheelers don't require motorcycle licenses. so yes, they are 'in'.

Christ 01-20-2010 08:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by luvit (Post 155599)
this list is flexible. really.
1 person, plus cargo space.. even if it's a 2 passenger.
i think i like limiting it to easily available cars, and affordable.
i'll update the rules again. -- sorry, i cause such a confusing gray-area on the list.

edit, 3 wheelers don't require motorcycle licenses. so yes, they are 'in'.

It's the type of personality you'll find here, really. That list of rules probably would have flown pretty much anywhere else, but we tend to be more analytical than other places, I think, and we don't normally assume the duty of covering gray area, so we like more concrete rules.



So it seems like we're looking at vehicles which follow the rules in normal production, correct? In other words, can't just say ( I took my seat out, it's a 1 passenger car!)

luvit 01-20-2010 08:14 PM

thassit

jamesqf 01-20-2010 08:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bgd73 (Post 155574)
single seat cars. why. why why...:rolleyes:

Why? 'Cause I can't even remember the last time I had another human riding in the car. (But see above re faithful canine companion :-))

'Cause if you only have one seat, you can remove a lot of body weight and frontal area, which means the car goes faster on the same engine.

PS: Oh, yeah. Have you ever tried riding a motorcycle in a snowstorm?

Christ 01-20-2010 08:19 PM

Does it need to be highway-capable, or what's the minimum top speed requirement?

luvit 01-20-2010 08:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Christ (Post 155612)
Does it need to be highway-capable, or what's the minimum top speed requirement?

i just edited the following text:
highway speeds allow flexibility for all circumstances.

Christ 01-20-2010 08:24 PM

Ok, so minimum top speed? (35MPH is the lowest speed limit on open roads around me, 25 in town... as a suggestion)

luvit 01-20-2010 08:30 PM

highway speeds have a minimum of 45mph (72kph)
check my above (edited) post, i edited the restriction list

Christ 01-20-2010 08:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by luvit (Post 155618)
highway speeds have a minimum of 45mph (72kph)
check my above post, i edited the restriction list

Ok, so we're looking at cars that have at least 3 wheels, don't need a special license to operate anywhere (some states don't have MC licensing), is road legal, is a production car that is currently in production, and is in range or cheaper than a "regular" car.

It also has to be a single person car with usable cargo space.

So far, we have no engine requirements, but it must be able to sustain 45MPH under normal conditions.

Now, we're getting somewhere with specifics. Should probably amend the rules to reflect this.

luvit 01-20-2010 08:40 PM

yeah. i've been editing it like every other post :p
thanks for the run-down

Christ 01-20-2010 08:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by luvit (Post 155623)
yeah. i've been editing it like every other post :p
thanks for the run-down

No problem.

Now that we've narrowed it down so far, I dont know if I know of anything that hasn't already been posted... LOL.

almightybmw 01-21-2010 07:51 AM

dang. the $20K limit tosses the Ariel Atom out of the running....

luvit 01-21-2010 02:17 PM

the model i'm familiar with is not even US street legal.

luvit 01-24-2010 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by luvit (Post 155361)
Electric Vehicle (EV)
EV.... Harvey Coachworks, 50mph.. 40miles .......... $ 9,000... BugE
.

added an EV.
http://www.xelopolis.com/news/image/...works-BugE.jpghttp://www.electric-bikes.com/cars/lev33.jpg
  • everything on the list so far are technically semi-enclosed scooters.
  • some states may call some of these a car since they have 3 wheels.
  • some states cay call some of these a scooter, but no special license is required.
i'm still on the hunt to build a list of more car-like, under 20K.

RobertSmalls 01-24-2010 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by luvit (Post 156321)
i'm still on the hunt. for more car-like, under 20K.

If you're looking for a car-like vehicle with remarkable fuel efficiency for under $20k and seating for at least one, for you to use as a daily driver, please say so.

If so, I recommend the first-generation Honda Insight.

Here's one up for auction, which sells on Wednesday: Copart

luvit 01-24-2010 11:57 AM

i'm just building a list in case anyone else has the same interest.
i am looking, but i won't make my mind up for months.

the insight is a great car, but to purchase a car in CA when i live in OH just doesn't sound practical. especially the listed salvaged vehicle with front end damage.

-- i am also surprised how hard it is to find used insights, especially early models.

luvit 01-24-2010 10:40 PM

can someone identify this TTW "car" ?
in addition, can you submit links other than the links associated at this URL?
Plug In America - Plug-in Vehicle Tracker
http://www.pluginamerica.org/vehicles/TTW-One-250.jpg
--thanks

Christ 01-24-2010 10:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by luvit (Post 156462)
can someone identify this TTW "car" ?
in addition, can you submit links other than the links associated at this URL?
Plug In America - Plug-in Vehicle Tracker
http://www.pluginamerica.org/vehicles/TTW-One-250.jpg
--thanks

It's the TTW PCV. You can read about it here:
http://www.ttwvehicles.com/pcv/pcv.pdf

It is actually a tilting motorcycle-based reverse trike with a recumbent seat.

orange4boy 01-24-2010 11:57 PM

OK this is funny:

"Welcome to the WORLD OF TOMORROW!"

http://www.autocycles.org/images/bede2000.jpg

The body styling of the PULSE gives it a fantastic futuristic look, at the same time following form with function. The aerodynamic shape allows the vehicle to cut through the wind and results in unusually high fuel mileage and performance. The PULSE has ten (10) times less drag than a motorcycle and its rider. The body is also designed in such a way as to increase stability and directional control as speed increases. The drag coefficient is .193

From here:http://www.autocycles.org/index.html

Christ 01-24-2010 11:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by orange4boy (Post 156476)
OK this is funny:

"Welcome to the WORLD OF TOMORROW!"

http://www.autocycles.org/images/bede2000.jpg

The body styling of the PULSE gives it a fantastic futuristic look, at the same time following form with function. The aerodynamic shape allows the vehicle to cut through the wind and results in unusually high fuel mileage and performance. The PULSE has ten (10) times less drag than a motorcycle and its rider. The body is also designed in such a way as to increase stability and directional control as speed increases. The drag coefficient is .193

From here:http://www.autocycles.org/index.html

I'd rock it.

orange4boy 01-25-2010 12:07 AM

In a heartbeat!
 
Too bad only <400 were ever made.

It may be the closest thing to an Aptera anyone will ever get. I do hope the aptera gets built though.

I bet if you said in 1980 that we would "all" be driving 5000 lb. 14mpg suburban "sport" type vehicles you would have been laughed off the roller rink.

bombloader 02-27-2010 06:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by orange4boy (Post 156480)
I bet if you said in 1980 that we would "all" be driving 5000 lb. 14mpg suburban "sport" type vehicles you would have been laughed off the roller rink.

Yeah they'd be asking why they didn't fly LOL.

NachtRitter 02-27-2010 10:17 PM

Quite a few fun-looking reverse trikes at Reverse Trike Motorcycle Club. Biotrike looks like a good candidate for the list.


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