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Someones Future Aero Vehicle?
saw this while searching caigs and thought it would make a perfect aero vehicle. price is right. would be a cool car. has a great shape and it's not mine.
1957 twin engine piper apache airplane fuselage - $900 (Montgomery) https://houston.craigslist.org/for/6054613099.html http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n...pskc3u6yfk.png http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n...ps3aeaotd8.png http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n...pseuc5tele.png |
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I have thought a lot about a fuselage trike! :D
http://ecomodder.com/forum/attachmen...1&d=1491133733 |
Fuselage trike, with a Toyota HSD!
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A true aptera :-)
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put in a tiny diesel and make it a trike :D
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I've never thought about that. It's genius!!
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I think there might be structural problems. With the plane, the loads of the main landing gear are carried by the wing's main spar. Almost all the weight is carried on the mains, very little on the nose wheel. (A reasonably strong person can lift the nose wheel off the ground - that's how I change the tire :-)) So I think it'd be hard to re-do the structure to handle highway wheel loads and have decent balance. Probably easier to start from scratch.
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Yeah, no.
Interestingly, there is a very similar fuselage on the roof of a garage in Cedar Flat (not 'Cedar Flats', it's not that big. :) ). The owner used to have a KC-135 and says he wants to make a road vehicle out of it. The problem I see is the probiscus. Not much usable space there, maybe a frunk? I'd bob the nose and attach a motorcycle to each side of the wing spar, and make it a five-wheeled tail-dragger. Not a street-legal windshield though, 24hrs of lemons. |
Not just the aerodynamics, mostly the light weight, sometimes lead me to lurk about an aviation-inspired prototype. Might not be an easy project, but I'm sure it would be cool.
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You're not the first to think so:
http://ecomodder.com/forum/member-fr...f5307910-o.jpg Start with a Hughes 500 :thumbup: |
A 1956 Cessna 310 and a Toyota Van, together, in the 24 Hours of LeMons. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etXQLiizqso
They went amphibious too! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BcHJ6MRnWLc |
The problem with using an airplane as a ground vehicle - is the wheels and the ground. The ground very much changes the aerodynamics, because the ground constricts the air flow under the car; and the wheels have to be exposed at least enough for the suspension to work.
I'll also mention that Mercedes did a study comparing single form cars to cars with outboard wheels, and they found that the latter was inherently higher drag. Air flows around the wheels interacts with the air that is being pushed out and around the main body, and this will always be worse. Also, where the suspension (or its covering) intersects with the wheels and the main body increases the drag. |
http://ecomodder.com/forum/member-fr...11-5-38-12.png
Here's my attempt to ameliorate that condition. Axle line is forward of max camber with a wide track, the suspension is in-wheel ala Edison2, and the suspension beam is filleted. It shoulda/coulda have been airfoiled like this design from the mid-90s. http://ecomodder.com/forum/member-fr...re5624-vw1.jpg |
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But anyway, a few months ago while I was looking for info about those Jabiru light-sport aircraft with a fiberglass monocoque I caught me looking at its aerodynamics and low weight. Even though a conventional automobile driveline would add some weight penalty, it still seems to be a good source of inspiration for a 4-seater aerodynamic prototype. |
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I was thinking of the elimination of hard points; with the motors carried on the suspension.
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