Suzuki Celerio owner from the Netherlands
 

Hello all,

I already created some threads: especially because I wanted to share, that I discovered that running my Suzuki Celerio on Shell V-Power actually makes the car run even more fuel efficient. I'm married and have a 7 months old daughter.

About 3.5 years ago I bought a used Suzuki Celerio from 2015 because, I wanted a practical and fuel efficient car. Driving in the Netherlands is really expensive, so I wanted to keep monthly costs and fuel costs low.

One reason being, I just have a ****ty job like many: so I don't earn that much money, to sponsor the fuel stations on a regular base. So in order to save money, I decided to start driving as fuel efficient. At first so that the money I save, can use for the maintenance.

But now I just do it, because I find it not worth to waste fuel while in many cases the time you win is small. So my latest record is 3,16L/100KM with the V-Power from Shell Belgium. Which is 74,43 mpg in USA standards.

That's even more fuel efficient, than what the manufacturer has put down as the official fuel usage. Of course it's only archieved, by hypermiling and annoying supposedly rich car owners.... because even when I drive the speed limit: still the BMW's, Volkswagen Golf/Polo's, Audi, Volvo etc keep tailgating :mad:

Fuel prices in the Netherlands have reached € 2 a litre at some fuel stations, so it doesn't make sense to me why people still keep driving like idiots. Although I realise, that's what they think of people like me who do hypermiling :o

How hard it is to haul all that baby gear in such a small car?

It's no problem: although we take a compact babytrolley, but all the stuff fits in the car. Sometimes it's a bit measuring and perhaps, putting some stuff on the passenger seat in front. But we went on a 5 day holiday a few weeks ago, and it was totally fine.

Hi, Zunigrijje -

Your Celerio is like this one?

https://ecomodder.com/forum/attachme...1&d=1625920510

From: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suzuki_Celerio

Are you happy with the car? What were you driving before?

I'm envious of your 1.0L engine! The smallest engine we can get in North America these days is 1.2L (not counting range extenders in an EV).

The current Mitsubishi Mirage offered both the 1.2L and 1.0L engine options in Europe & Japan, but we'll never see the more efficient engine here.

cRiPpLe_rOoStEr: Does Suzuki sell the Celerio in your part of the world? I'm guessing yes.

Suzuki left Canada & the U.S. about 10 years ago now.

Of course I have a soft spot in my heart for Suzuki, since my little 1998 Pontiac Firefly (Chevrolet Metro) is a Suzuki-designed platform & drivetrain, built by a GM/Suzuki collaboration.

Yes like that one, only mine was made in Thailand and not in India or Pakistan. Also it features a more fuel efficient engine, it's called K10C and that's basically a fine tuned K10B engine which was the standard engine in countries like Germany.

Because the Netherlands has a very strict tax system, when it comes to polution: so the more fuel efficient an engine is on paper, the less CO2 it emits and that means it will cost less tax.

I'm very satisfied about the Suzuki Celerio, only times I wasn't didn't really have to do anything with the car. But the fact a young Volkswagen driver, crashed in my car while it was parked. That was a bit of dramatic shock for me, even though the other party insurance paid it.

And recently the airco broke down, but this has been the only repair it needs in the last 3.5 year I own the car and I have driven 60.000km and now the mileage is 95.000km totally. The car turned in may 6 years old.

So yes quite happy with it, because it has turned out to be a reliable car: the airco broke, because of the condensor being hit by a stone. Could have happened with any car... just a bit sad, that it going cost me about € 465 totally

https://i.ibb.co/0hMDJ5Q/IMG-20210613-095945.jpg

This is mine Suzuki Celerio, I was finally able to post images and hyperlinks. Here is a link to my Spritmonitor, I have been keeping track of my fuel consumption ever since I own the car.

Not in Brazil, yet they sell like hot cakes in neighboring countries, mostly Uruguay for instance. The local representative for both Mitsubishi and Suzuki, which by the way is a former owner of Ford dealerships, has been focusing more on SUVs (and the L200 which was the first Mitsubishi to be locally assembled).

Dutch V-Power is 98 octane with no ethanol added. Normal Shell fuel is 95 octane but with 5 to 10 percent ethanol added. The octane doenst matter so much, as the Celerio won't be abble to make use of the higher octane fuel, but ethanol has a lower energy density, so fuel consumption will go up.

I never found any accurate report about the mileage decrease a Suzuki Celerio registered in Uruguay could get in Brazil, where the ethanol content in gasoline varies from 22 to 27%. But a few years ago when I used to go to Uruguay more often, people who lived in the Uruguayan cities at the border often filled-up their cars in Brazil when the exchange rate was favorable, and everytime I had a talk with some Uruguayan (or doble-chapa with both Brazilian and Uruguayan citizenship) who had a car registered in Uruguay, either there or in Porto Alegre where I used to see a handful of Suzukis and Chinese trucks (fitted most often with a copy of the Mitsubishi 4G64 engine) with Uruguayan plates, they said the ethanol content was not an issue regarding long-term reliability of the vehicles.

I used to fill up my Insight with Blue One (15% ethanol) a couple of years ago. It had hardly any effect on fuel efficiency when the engine is warm, but it does seem to affect cold performance.

It is pressure, not heat, that powers an engine. While ethanol has a lower caloric value than gasoline, it produces almost the same volume of exhaust gases.
On top of that, if your engine has EGR feedback then the slightly lower temperature allows for more of it, so less pumping losses on light loads. That would almost completely mitigate the mpg loss.

Cold start is often pointed out as the worst issue with ethanol, besides the lower energy content.