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rmay635703 08-19-2022 09:38 AM

Target clearance the most advertised nothing burger
 
I’m uncertain what happened

I remember as a kid a clearance could be up to 90% off, it was a price that would motivate you to buy unnecessary things.

The current Target clearance 10-20% off an already inflated price and even better 10-20% off expired food?

As much hype and discussion as there is about the big clearance it’s really nothing more than a minor sale

I’m told there are better deals but the actual dollar amount in those cases regardless of the percentage supposedly off still looks like no deal to me.

Not sure who is motivated by small price drops on outdated stuff anymore

Now certain “big ticket “ items have dropped somewhat in price
80”+ TVs for example but the price is still not exactly cheap and I don’t want a tv that size

I have been looking for a new Bicycle but it still appears you get exactly what you pay for, not sure why some bikes cost more than one of my cars though

redpoint5 08-19-2022 11:23 AM

I never liked the concept of a sale. Give me the lowest price you're willing to let a thing go all the time. I'll buy elsewhere if the price is better. I get the need when it's actually used to clear out inventory no longer wanted to be kept in stock, but that's just called the clearance rack.

I haven't seen a cheap thing yet. Bought my 75" TV 3 years ago for $380. Haven't been looking, but I bet you can't find 'em that cheap now.

Not sure we'll see good deals anymore.

cRiPpLe_rOoStEr 08-22-2022 02:23 AM

A few weeks ago I noticed the price of a packet of biscuits was half the usual at a Zaffari in my hometown. Expiration date was closer than some packets I had at home. I don't know why stockpiling some items until it's close to their expiration date, but I'm sure it might be effective toward those people who buy things by impulse.

JSH 08-22-2022 03:57 PM

The problem with large sales is that it conditions customers to only buy when things are on sale so the company has to mark things up to then discount them. That kind of thing worked in the old days but today most people are going to at least look at something online even if they end up buying it at a physical store. People can see the prices of 10 stores side by side and that 80% off sale no longer looks like a sale.

JC Penny ran into this problem and a new CEO tried to fix it by just pricing things for what the store actually wanted to sell them for. It backfired and their core customers revolted because they expected to buy things 80% off - they didn't care that the final price was the same they were conditioned to expect a discount and feel like they were getting an expensive product for next to nothing.

I went into Penny's last week to buy a linen sport coat for a wedding that required "cocktail attire" and I was pretty shocked that they are still in business. It was a shell of the store I remembered from 20 years ago. Half empty, understaffed, clothes randomly strewn around instead of returned to the proper racks after being folded or hung properly.

But on the bright side I got a $200 sport coat for only $48. What a deal!

freebeard 08-22-2022 04:48 PM

I don't buy new except food and [recycled] toilet paper, but buying used has it's pitfalls.

I bought a sweet 5" circular saw by Ball (with case) from the mid-50s, but when I went to change the blade, it uses a square hole. :confused:

So I went back and got a Craftsman in a carry case that has 2-55 stamped on the build plate. When I went to change the blade, it has a 1/2" harbor instead of 5/8" or diamond. :mad:

So I went back and got a $20 Hitachi with no case, or blade so I could see the arbor.

The good news is I'm out maybe $80 in total. While I was there I saw a Speedaire air compressor priced at $275 -- identical to the one I got for $28 around 2016.

redpoint5 08-22-2022 05:54 PM

I don't wear used underwear, unless required by penal code. Never a used toothbrush.

freebeard 08-22-2022 07:32 PM

Goin' commando, amirite?

That was hyperbole. I find used paint is hard to work with. ....and tooth paste.

When the government sent me [']free['] money, it went to a .410 Derringer and a Ruger 10/22. Both used.

redpoint5 08-22-2022 07:34 PM

Ain't nothin ever been free.

freebeard 08-22-2022 09:41 PM

Noted. Fixed.

redpoint5 08-23-2022 12:24 AM

The Target clearance section can have good deals. We got a wedding gift once, and my wife decided the thing wasn't worth the price paid for it, so returned it for credit. The next week, the returned item was in the clearance section for 25% of the original price, so she bought it and still had 75% of store credit to spend.

cRiPpLe_rOoStEr 08-23-2022 02:14 AM

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Originally Posted by JSH (Post 673444)
The problem with large sales is that it conditions customers to only buy when things are on sale so the company has to mark things up to then discount them.

Either this, or large retail chains stockpile enough of some items when their cost is lower due to favorable exchange rates for instance.


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That kind of thing worked in the old days but today most people are going to at least look at something online even if they end up buying it at a physical store. People can see the prices of 10 stores side by side and that 80% off sale no longer looks like a sale.
Most often I still prefer to buy at a physical store, if I am in a hurry to get the item, yet looking for prices online can be helpful too.

redpoint5 08-23-2022 02:40 AM

I live in a town where many things can't be bought locally, meaning a 30 minute trip to the city. The other day my friend asked where to get shoes for his daughter because she got her 1 pair wet while camping. I thought for a while and said maybe Goodwill. The only other place the farm store, and they'd just have boots.

Amazon has most things available, delivered the next day. Some things can even be delivered same day for an extra fee.

The used bookstore has come in handy in a town like mine where you'd either need to spend an hour driving plus the time to shop, or just have things delivered to the doorstep.

rmay635703 08-23-2022 04:54 PM

Most of the actually decent deals on things I have bought were never available online let alone at anywhere near the same price.

My main issue is that “clearance prices” seem to be far above what I normally pay.
If I do search for clearance online the price never matches my local store or the product had not been in stock for months

redpoint5 08-23-2022 04:57 PM

The future of retail goods is mostly not brick and mortar. Only thing I want from Target is the highest quality diapers in the size I need them at the lowest price. Don't want to window shop for that, I just want a used book store to bring them to my door. Now Amazon has a diaper brand that competes with Target on every level.

freebeard 08-23-2022 05:30 PM

I tried to buy a beer at a booth in Riverfront Park, but they declined my proffer of cash.
  • Their price was denominated in dollars
  • My bills state "This note is legal tender, for all debts public and private"
So I asked if they accept Bitcoin and they said no. I said "That's the only reason I don't use it" and walked away beerlessly.

Xist 09-05-2022 05:32 PM

Many times I have fallen victim to the day-old rack at a grocery store.

Oh no, the price is great, but they make me fat! :)

I rarely see anything on the rack at Safeway anymore and when I stop at the Basha's half an hour away they now slice their prices 10%!

They are still kind of high, but what am I going to do, buy Walmart?!

Maybe.

We just ate a box of Entenmann's.

Mom hid them from my brother and they got stale.

Dipping them in milk just made them hard and wet.

redpoint5 09-06-2022 12:19 AM

The Safeway app has great deals, which I expect to become very mediocre once they achieve their targets for training their customers to use the app. 5 cent mangos, 10 cent corn on the cob... they pick the order and substitute better stuff if they don't have exactly what you want. Then they bring all the bags of groceries to the car in a couple minutes. Suckers go to the grocery store hungry, and then pick items off the shelf.

We're approaching the Golden Age. It's silly how much time is wasted handling food dozens of times before it goes in my belly.

As an aside, food doesn't make people fat, just like my car doesn't get into a wreck. The entities with agency direct the entities that don't have agency, and the results of those decisions are manifest.

freebeard 09-06-2022 04:35 AM

I do my hunting and gathering in the aisles of Grocery Outlet.

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The entities with agency direct the entities that don't have agency, and the results of those decisions are manifest.
As an aside to your aside, one of the best book I've ever read was Operators and Things

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https://www.goodreads.com › book › show › 761935.Operators_and_Things
Operators and Things: The Inner Life of a Schizophrenic - Goodreads
OPERATORS AND THINGS: THE INNER LIFE OF A SCHIZOPHRENIC by Barbara O'Brien (not her real name) is an insider's view of madness. There have been others who have tried to capture their mental break in words, but most are paranoid, disjointed and, well, crazy. O'Brien is different.

https://www.silverbirchpress.com › operators_and_things.html
Operators and Things | Silver Birch Press
Operators and Things | Silver Birch Press OPERATORS AND THINGS by Barbara O'Brien Reissue of the 1958 classic true story of a woman's descent into schizophrenia and her journey back to sanity. "O'Brien has produced a work of brilliance and power, evoking a combination of Kafka and Joyce, with a touch of Orwell." Robert R. Kirsch, Los Angeles Times
Her world consisted of those who put invisible hooks in the backs of the recievers of their operant conditioning. Operators and their [NPC] things.

One amazing scene was when the voices in her head told her exactly what to do in order to walk out of a jail. Then they cured her and left.

cRiPpLe_rOoStEr 09-09-2022 06:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Xist (Post 674025)
Many times I have fallen victim to the day-old rack at a grocery store.

I usually don't make this mistake. Usually, but sometimes it's just so tempting...

rmay635703 09-09-2022 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by cRiPpLe_rOoStEr (Post 674244)
I usually don't make this mistake. Usually, but sometimes it's just so tempting...

When I was a kid there was a bread store (packaged stuff) all I ate was the so called 33cent day old bread.

Imagine a store now that only sells bread?

JSH 09-09-2022 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by rmay635703 (Post 674249)
When I was a kid there was a bread store (packaged stuff) all I ate was the so called 33cent day old bread.

Imagine a store now that only sells bread?


They still exist. Both the traditional bakery where all they sell is fresh made baked items and retailers of day-old tasteless factory bread.

I also grew up on day-old bread. My mom would make a trip to the bread outlet store, buy a dozen loaves or so and put them in the chest freezer. It was cheap - that is the only good thing I can say about it.

redpoint5 09-09-2022 11:36 AM

Even though we were poor, my mom fit wheat bread into the budget. She didn't let me eat anything considered "empty calories". Never knew the joys of white bread as a kid. Good training though as my wife won't let anyone eat white bread.

rmay635703 09-09-2022 12:52 PM

I never had white bread at home, only whole wheat.

The exception was school or my aunts or if I had a hotdog/ hamburger bun
(My folks rarely used buns, everything went on a slice of whole wheat.

freebeard 09-09-2022 01:04 PM

Lately, I\'ve been buying potato bread. It\'s off-white.

oil pan 4 09-09-2022 02:31 PM

When the economy is a wreck stuff never makes it to 90% mark down. Shortages and poverty mean stuff like every day items get bought up before they can be marked down to even 50% off.
In 2020 I bought a cart load of lawnmower oils, 1qt and 1gallon ethanol free gasoline, fertilizers all 50% to 80% off. Because the economy was going great until bat sniffles fear porn caused people to hide under their beds all spring and summer. See: https://ecomodder.com/forum/showthre...ert-38556.html
Then next spring after people didn't cut their grass for a year there was a mower shortage.

redpoint5 09-09-2022 02:53 PM

Good point... I keep hoping the recession will drive prices down, especially on toys, but that may never happen. It might require a great economy for people to want to part with their used toys and purchase new ones.

JSH 09-09-2022 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by redpoint5 (Post 674253)
Even though we were poor, my mom fit wheat bread into the budget. She didn't let me eat anything considered "empty calories". Never knew the joys of white bread as a kid. Good training though as my wife won't let anyone eat white bread.

There was no joy in eating "Wonder Bread" There are some excellent white breads but that tasteless spongy stuff sold as bread in the USA isn't it.


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Originally Posted by redpoint5 (Post 674275)
Good point... I keep hoping the recession will drive prices down, especially on toys, but that may never happen. It might require a great economy for people to want to part with their used toys and purchase new ones.

As the Boomers continue to die their toys will get sold at a hefty discount. Tastes change.

freebeard 09-09-2022 05:01 PM

I'm too old to be a Boomer. :eek:

redpoint5 09-09-2022 05:23 PM

Is that why you're so silent around here?

freebeard 09-09-2022 07:15 PM

Too busy watching Youtube videos. :)
Buddy Holly Story - Not Fade Away - Peggy Sue - Part 1
Rockabilly is the purest form of rock and roll because it never evolved.

edit: Here's black and white rockabilly in Ukraine months before the Maidan Square Massacre from 2013:

the Wise Guyz - Jumping Record

Xist 09-10-2022 07:32 PM

Well, freebeard isn't all bad, at least I get to listen to Buddy Holly while trying to make sense of his posts.

freebeard, why don't you always post a different good music videos?

What do I not pay you for?! :D

I don't know that I had ever bought cheap white bread until I was trying to keep a particularly picky Alaskan alive.

If it was the adult I wouldn't have cared, but you aren't allowed to allow kids to die, even if they are particularly picky.

"Hey, what do you want for breakfast?!"
"Eggs."
"What kind of eggs?"
"Eggs."
So, I made eggs for her the way that I made them for my brother.
She refused to touch them.
Only then did did the mother say she only ate over-easy eggs.
What is wrong with them?!

Oh well. Someone else's problem.

Do you know who isn't anyone's problem?

The 8-year-old who was more responsible, intelligent, and mature than her mother.

Is it weird to miss a kid, but not the mother?

I am sure that you hadn't missed hearing about the mother.

By the way, I am sure that millennials will call other millennials boomers if they don't like them.

The qualification isn't age, its not fitting to whatever qualification the dang whipper snapper is applying at that moment.

redpoint5 09-10-2022 07:38 PM

If the parenting is inadequate to keep a child alive and reasonably healthy, they need to be removed from that guardian.

Also, beggars can't be choosers unless a person is foolish enough to allow themselves to be walked all over. I'll usually respond to a request for assistance, but my willingness to help requires the asker to agree with the solution I provide. Some people aren't looking for solutions, and many have ulterior motives.

It takes a tiny bit of discernment to tell the difference between those with needs, and leeches. One requires utmost compassion, the other utmost contempt.

Xist 09-10-2022 08:09 PM

If you order food from a restaurant, how much can they mess up the order before you sent it back?

I stopped at a Mexican place between clients and an employee came out saying "Hey, we gave you someone else's burrito. Here's the right one."
"Okay, but this one is really good!"
"Keep it!"

Back in Mesa people always talked up Ned's Crazy Subs. I went once and they intentionally and maliciously wrapped a pickle wedge with my sandwich.

The parts of my sandwich not soaked with pickle juice were good, but the rest was ruined.

Now, people who don't like me claim that pickles are great and wonderful just because they know it bothers me.

Have we established that I need to find new people? :)

It was years before I returned to Ned's Crazy Subs, but I kept telling them to hold the pickle.
They kept telling me to just remove it.
They finally stopped saying the same thing over and over expecting a different result and I had a pickle wedge wrapped with my sandwich with pickle juice soaked into my bread.

I haven't been back for years and I'm never going back.

However, if you give me something for free, I won't be picky.

Here's the thing: The Alaskans have been homeless.

They didn't mind it as much as I expect?

freebeard 09-10-2022 08:27 PM

"It's always hold the pickle, never hold your pickle".

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freebeard, why don't you always post a different good music videos?
ecomodder.com/forum/showthread.php/what-you-listening-to

Have we talked about Kitty, Daisy and Lewis? FYI that's not Buddy Holly, but I like the act because he captures the joy that Holly brought to the table. And it was an important inflection point in race relations.

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Is it weird to miss a kid, but not the mother?
Puberty [in the ambient culture] makes 'em cra-cra.

Sallie Ford and the Sound Outside - I Swear (OFFICIAL VIDEO)

Xist 09-10-2022 08:43 PM

The older two have learned helplessness.

freebeard 09-10-2022 09:50 PM

That's where it begins. :(

cRiPpLe_rOoStEr 09-11-2022 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Xist (Post 674346)
If you order food from a restaurant, how much can they mess up the order before you sent it back?

They shouldn't be supposed to mess it up, but sometimes it seems like they're waiting for someone to die from a foodborne allergy before handling properly the orders :turtle:

redpoint5 09-11-2022 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by cRiPpLe_rOoStEr (Post 674408)
They shouldn't be supposed to mess it up, but sometimes it seems like they're waiting for someone to die from a foodborne allergy before handling properly the orders :turtle:

I’ve occasionally wished I owned a business just so I could tell the pimply kid to resign on the spot and work for me for 4x the pay. Usually I’m thinking minimum wage is way more than the pimply kid should get.

We’ll soon be ordering from an app while the robits make it. All mistakes will be self introduced. Pimply kids will have to figure something out.

Out of hundreds of orders, I don’t think Taco Bell has ever delivers 100% of what I’ve ordered. Never sent anything back.


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