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Technically, 'aerodynamics'
High-performance Ariel Atom ditches the wings and uses another 'aerodynamic' solution to minimize wing drag and improve cornering stability. The Ariel Atom Aero-P uses banned racecar technology ground effects, it uses a bottom tub with flexible side skirts and two electric fans to create a vacuum/suction down force. The downforce system can be turned on or off on demand, higher downforce at turns and low down force on straightaways.
It may not be practical on regular road cars (rocks and road debris) but it will benefit track cars without the use of massive spoilers and wings. This Ariel Atom Uses Electric Fans to Suck It Into the Ground |
I've always wondered why they don't just use articulating wings that are computer controlled and "fly" the vehicle around corners instead of the caveman approach of artificially making the car weigh more, and forcing the rubber to provide all of the velocity change.
Why make down force when it isn't the intended vector? |
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Don't know why this did not take off, might have been outlawed. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7l70Q6P-vU |
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I wonder... should be simple enough to install rudders in wing uprights... have them linked to the steering mechanism for simplicity.
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Ha. Use 4 wheel steering and rake the whole body.
Driverless race cars to cope with the G forces :) The horizontal split wing reduces body roll, but you would still corner faster if the outward flap moves up fully too; more pressure on the outward wheels, faster cornering. You would not want the split. You want the whole wing helping you through the corner. |
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This story reminds me of other technologies banned from racing because they were too good and made the competition noncompetitive.
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You have to recall that the race tracks back then were the city streets and country roads, both often just trenched mud pits with a few rocks tossed in for laughs. 4WD was a huge advantage back then, and hybrid electric often more reliable than ICE alone. |
Pagani use active aero on the street, but use flaps instead of wings.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1zXCAPbJYk R. B. Fuller proposed flying the tail of his Dymaxion Omnidirectional Transport, but for fuel efficiency instead of downforce. http://ecomodder.com/forum/member-fr...f5307910-o.jpg The problem with drawing a vacuum in the plenum under the vehicle is that if the dynamics of the vehicle's mass lifts the edge sufficiently the downforce dissipates catastrophically. |
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The down force vacuum unit would need to be able to handle leaves, sticks, plastic bags, dust, and any other road debris that might be sucked up by this "vacuum cleaner on wheels". Public roads are a lot dirtier than a race course.
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kach22i -- Yup. Not even the example I had in mind. And neither was under suction.
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Maybe ask the top Dyson engineers with their best 'vacuum' technologies know-how in vehicle design. They are sometimes allowed to have time and 'play' with different projects. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dtdze7ZXk9s
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Interesting comment by jamesqf about racing being more about the human element of competition rather than the manufacturers showcasing their wares. I disagree completely, at least in context of early automobile races. There was much to prove mechanically back then which outweighed the individuals crowing rights to superior driving skills. Superior on-board mechanical repair skills were yet another element vacant in modem races, that is if you exclude the navigator on off-road endurance races. Riding mechanic https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Riding_mechanic Quote:
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I am fortunate enough to recall when this controversy reached perhaps it's apex. I think it was ABC's World Wide Sports program on broadcast/roof top TV in 1973 when I was 13 years old. Only thing which could have kept me indoors on a splendid summer day back then. Mark Donohue and the Porsche 911 RSR IROC Porsche 911 RSR IROC | Mark Donohue | Dutton Garage Quote:
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Interesting to note, and an attempt to swing this discussion to "aerodynamics" is that the era being discussed also begat the HP Vs Aerodynamics controversy, with Carroll Shelby infamously stating that "Aerodynamics are for people which don't have enough horsepower". I cannot seem to find that exact quote on the Internet right now, but it is stuck in my head from somewhere. EDIT-1 Enzo Ferrari perhaps said something similar? https://www.pinterest.com/lenshirley39/racing/ https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com...67d7fdfbaa.jpg |
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