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LeanBurn 06-21-2013 10:28 AM

Tesla's 90-second battery swap coming this year
 
Tesla's 90-second battery swap coming this year | Fox News

Pretty cool. I hope these guys have overwhelming success...that is if they are able to avoid being killed by big oil mafia.

http://www.teslamotors.com/batteryswap

MetroMPG 06-21-2013 10:33 AM

That's funny.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=shdHVGYQonQ

2 Model S cars get pack swaps in the time it takes to fill up an Audi A8.

I'm glad Tesla decided to refine the ForkenSwift hot swap process. The royalties are welcome!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6yfQcihsvE0

gone-ot 06-21-2013 10:42 AM

But:

(A) what is the co$t of that swap?

(B) is that only like-for-like or could it also include battery upgrading?

MetroMPG 06-21-2013 10:47 AM

Good question! Could you theoretically "own" a smaller capacity pack, but swap in a large cap pack for a highway trip?

NeilBlanchard 06-21-2013 10:57 AM

I think the cost will be more than the electricity costs, for sure, but probably less than it costs to fill up the A8? My guess is about $40?

botsapper 06-21-2013 11:41 AM

"Sorry to keep you waiting"...just like owning any rechargeable electric device/equipment have TWO battery packs, one in use and one in standby charging reserve.

Xist 06-21-2013 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by botsapper (Post 377296)
"Sorry to keep you waiting"...just like owning any rechargeable electric device/equipment have TWO battery packs, one in use and one in standby charging reserve.

Well, if you can afford a Tesla, hopefully you can afford a battery backup.

brucey 06-21-2013 01:00 PM

What happened to the super charging tech they demo'ed before?

night9 06-21-2013 01:07 PM

I think a better way they could deal with long highway trips could be to add a booster battery pack to feed the main battery pack. Much like they have for cell phones. Like a "juice pack" cell phones use for recharging on the go. Kind of like how hybrid owners extend their ev only range with an engineer battery pack. You could rent the range exender for trips and just change it out at each recharge station. This way your own battery stays with the car and in place. You wouldn't have to go back later to pick it up. You just drop off the range extending pack at wich ever station you want near you destination.

botsapper 06-21-2013 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xist (Post 377303)
Well, if you can afford a Tesla, hopefully you can afford a battery backup.

...if you have to ask how much, you can't afford it.

oil pan 4 06-22-2013 01:10 AM

I think this is a far better idea than their epic fail "solar powered super charging stations".

If you don't have a tesla S and don't live between sanfran and LA (as 99.99999% of people do) then your best bet is a liquid fueled generator trailer pulled behind your EV.
Or if you have an EV pickup, put the gen in the bed, if the bed space is not needed.

Xist 06-22-2013 03:08 AM

Their previous idea is already an "epic fail?"

wdb 06-22-2013 07:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brucey (Post 377304)
What happened to the super charging tech they demo'ed before?

That's the free alternative. This alternative (battery swap) is going to cost money.

I have concerns about the real-world practicality of the battery swap. Tesla engineers aren't dummies, and perhaps they've thought them all out, but here they are anyway:
  • battery pack condition - what if I swap my brand new battery pack for a 4 year old pack?
  • varying battery pack capacities (already mentioned in this thread)
  • inclement weather - I've worked under cars in wintertime, they can be an ice-clogged, dripping, awful mess
  • other environmental variables - after all, this swap is taking place under a car

oil pan 4 06-22-2013 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wdb (Post 377406)
That's the free alternative. This alternative (battery swap) is going to cost money.

I have concerns about the real-world practicality of the battery swap. Tesla engineers aren't dummies, and perhaps they've thought them all out, but here they are anyway:
  • battery pack condition - what if I swap my brand new battery pack for a 4 year old pack?
  • varying battery pack capacities (already mentioned in this thread)
  • inclement weather - I've worked under cars in wintertime, they can be an ice-clogged, dripping, awful mess
  • other environmental variables - after all, this swap is taking place under a car

It seems the more time and money they put into electric vehicles the more they restrict them to perfect weather places where people seem to have tons of money, like california.

You are right at the under the car variables, I don't think many people realize how dirty the underside of a car gets.

NeilBlanchard 06-22-2013 06:37 PM

Tesla answers questions about battery swap announcement

Quote:

Question: Are the batteries at the stations all brand-new?

Answer: They will be brand-new at first. But as owners use them, they will obviously have recharging cycles on them. Each will be monitored for optimal performance, so the customer won't have to worry about that.

Question: How much does it cost to upgrade a charging station to allow battery swapping?

Answer: It costs about $500,000 per site, and that includes digging the pit, construction and hardware. The electrical capacity is already on site (supplying energy to the Superchargers).


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