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jakobnev 07-06-2014 01:06 PM

TPMS - It does nothing.
 
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It's been like that for a long time now.

I guess drivers can't be assed to fill up their tires no matter how much the car beeps at them..

P-hack 07-06-2014 02:46 PM

that is painful to see. Reminds me of a friend of a friend who thought the oil light meant put some oil in it when it is convenient...

Cobb 07-06-2014 09:30 PM

Dont forget the over heat light means to add water and the brake light means to add brake fluid. :thumbup:

Frank Lee 07-06-2014 09:41 PM

Tire PMS? :eek:

Frank Lee 07-06-2014 09:53 PM

In either case, I wouldn't know!

Cobb 07-07-2014 09:43 PM

I got a head ache, anyone got any midol? :eek:

jcp123 07-07-2014 10:15 PM

I work auto parts and I get a lot of people who a ask me what that light is.

Cobb 07-07-2014 11:05 PM

When I had that light I went to advance auto and they just knew they couldnt get the part, referred me to the dealer. Found out from a 3rd party tire store I had 2 bad sensors. Got 4 "used" ones from ebay for the price of 1 at the dealer.

Dealer couldnt program, went back to tire store. Said all 4 had full battery or charge and reprogrammed the car.

Quote:

Originally Posted by jcp123 (Post 434178)
I work auto parts and I get a lot of people who a ask me what that light is.


jcp123 07-13-2014 01:06 PM

We sell tpms sensors but can't program them. I'd be happy if tpms didn't exist.

Arragonis 07-14-2014 03:06 PM

The owner could just look at the tyre ? Eyes 1.0 seems superior.

Fat Charlie 07-15-2014 10:24 AM

I love tire pressure sensors. I sell parts at a dealership. :p

What do I love more than tire pressure sensors? Lug nuts with chrome caps.

wdb 07-15-2014 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Charlie (Post 435558)
What do I love more than tire pressure sensors? Lug nuts with chrome caps.

I just laughed my way through a "lug nuts swollen?!?" thread on another vehicle forum.

I fixed the TPMS sensor issue on my (dear departed) Fit with electrical tape.

PaleMelanesian 07-15-2014 01:28 PM

I'm glad to hear the new Fit uses indirect TPMS, with no sensors. It compares wheel rpm and if one is turning slower (or is it faster?) than the rest, then shows the light. It won't help if all four are low, but no added parts to break.

Miller88 07-15-2014 02:32 PM

Because Americans are too busy texting and taking selfies to pay attention to their car, I am forced to have this garbage on my vehicle.

I have TPMS on my 14 year old Jeep. It's called walk around and look to see if there is a flat tire. I also have a $5 tire gauge ...

P-hack 07-15-2014 02:36 PM

yes, it takes a couple more sensors though and some logic, i.e. IF steering wheel sensor says straight ahead AND brakes are not applied THEN check the wheel speed sensors.

backpacker3 07-15-2014 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by PaleMelanesian (Post 435574)
I'm glad to hear the new Fit uses indirect TPMS, with no sensors. It compares wheel rpm and if one is turning slower (or is it faster?) than the rest, then shows the light. It won't help if all four are low, but no added parts to break.

I wonder what that would do if your front tires were newer than the rears or if you had a spare tire.

PaleMelanesian 07-15-2014 03:07 PM

I'm almost positive it would light up with a spare. It probably has logic to compare both front wheels to each other, and both rears to each other, or something like that. That would make sense to me.

Of course it would be turning faster. The flattened bottom of the tire makes the effective ground-to-axle radius smaller. The top half doesn't matter, just the bottom.

Edit: in the case of the Corvette mentioned above, its front and rear tires are different sizes. (c6 has 25.7" dia fronts and 26.85" dia rears) There must be some compensation for that in the logic that controls the warning light.

P-hack 07-15-2014 05:03 PM

I'm wondering why you would have abs on a corvette myself...

Cobb 07-15-2014 05:15 PM

I wished you had my parts, I had to order them from ebay and wait a few days for them in the mail. Ever try to find wheel studs or nutz for a 95 suzuki sidekick? :mad:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Charlie (Post 435558)
I love tire pressure sensors. I sell parts at a dealership. :p

What do I love more than tire pressure sensors? Lug nuts with chrome caps.


Frank Lee 07-15-2014 05:31 PM

I like the lugnuts with the stainless caps. Yes the underlying nut can corrode, swell up, and mess up the cap and it's fit to the wrench. But on wheels with exposed lugnuts they look so much better than regular lugnuts and actual chrome gets rusty far too quickly.

I bought replacement sheathed lugnuts and my strategy is to soak them in hot thick oil such that the space between the sheath and the lugnut is filled with oil thus preventing the dreaded corrosion. /hijack

UltArc 07-16-2014 12:59 AM

TPMS is a Ford Focus doesn't pop until some 19 PSI.

On an F150, it is a bit higher but still dangerously low.

Honestly, was a bit disappointed in my family members when I learned their behaviors. Some stern chats have made tire pressure checks routine for them.

Fat Charlie 07-16-2014 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Cobb (Post 435628)
Ever try to find wheel studs or nutz for a 95 suzuki sidekick?

Federated Auto Parts:
Dorman/Motormite
WHEEL NUT M12-1.25 ACORN - 19MM HEX, 24MM LENGTH
List $5.86 ea, I can have 7 in an hour and all you want later today.
WHEEL NUT M12-1.25 ACORN - 13/16" HEX, 35MM LENGTH
List $6.06 ea, I can have 12 in an hour and all you want later today.
WHEEL NUT M12-1.25 MAG , SHORT - 13/16" HEX, 1.454" LENGTH
List $4.05 ea, I can have 10 later today.
WHEEL NUT M12-1.25 MAG - 13/16" HEX, 1.684" LENGTH
List $4.11 ea, I can probably get them in a day or so.
WHEEL LUG NUT M12-1.25 - 13/16" HEX, 1.38" LENGTH
List $3.56 ea, I can have 10 in an hour and 10 more later today.

M12-1.25 SERRATED WHEEL STUD - 12.45MM KNURL, 33.5MM LENGTH
List $4.43 ea, I can probably get them in a day or so.
M12-1.25 SERRATED WHEEL STUD - 12.45MM KNURL, 37.5MM LENGTH
List $4.79 ea, I can have 10 later today.

These are just what one of the stores in town lists. My screen shows their shelf and their local warehouse's shelf, but the other parts they list are in the system and probably on the shelf at the next warehouse over- I just can't tell exactly how available they are without calling and bothering one of their counterpeople. I hate bothering counterpeople who are probably trying to post something on the web at the moment.

The chrome capped lug nuts are great because the chrome caps aren't very forgiving when a partially trained monkey takes an impact gun to them with a "close enough" sized socket. This ain't horseshoes or hand grenades, and there are some lug nuts that I sell in 20s to some of the chain type garages. They're also my best customers for pressure sensors: a careful wrench can avoid damaging them, but a guy who demolishes lug nuts for a living can only stand there and mumble something about how the aluminum rotted away, it was about to fall apart anyway and you're lucky it happened while you were here.

Cobb 07-16-2014 05:48 PM

Wow, any relation to advance auto, napa or autozone? What trucked me over was the fact someone used a 33.5mm up front on the drivers side and 37.5 for all the rest and 3 wheels.

So, when a nut was put on the 33.5mm nut and tighten up it wrapped the threads. Unless you replaced the same nut on this stud you screwed up the threads on another studd if you hammer it on and so on. I went through 2 studds and 3 nutz figuring this out. I said screw it all and ordered 30 of the 37.5 and replaced them all and bought matching nutz. :thumbup:


'M12-1.25 SERRATED WHEEL STUD - 12.45MM KNURL, 33.5MM LENGTH
List $4.43 ea, I can probably get them in a day or so.
M12-1.25 SERRATED WHEEL STUD - 12.45MM KNURL, 37.5MM LENGTH
List $4.79 ea, I can have 10 later today."

user removed 07-16-2014 06:41 PM

My wife is a TPMS.

regards
Mech

jcp123 07-16-2014 07:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Old Mechanic (Post 435867)
My wife is a TPMS.

regards
Mech

Aren't they all?

user removed 07-16-2014 08:51 PM

LOL, lets leave the initials to the imagination, but I swear she can tell when the tires are 2 psi low, until I inflated them to 42 PSI. Reminds me, I need to check all of my tires, only time the tpms came on on the Fiesta was when I first got it. There was a nail in the left rear tire, plugged it in the garage and it has held pressure the same as the rest close to 27 k miles.

regards
Mech

Cobb 07-16-2014 09:09 PM

Dont forget your spare tire, if equipped. Some include a tpms sensor as well. :eek:

Fat Charlie 07-17-2014 08:23 AM

Napa lists the front studs as being the 37.5 mm ones, part NOE 6413144. List shows as $4.78 ea.
they list the 33.5s as the rears, pn NOE 6413158, list $3.66 ea.

We don't do much with Advance or Autozone. Napa's catalog is very good but they're farther away from us than Federated and delivery is spottier.

roosterk0031 07-17-2014 09:22 AM

With my 3 Chevy's, just have to push a few button's to check each tires pressure. I've only had one flat with any of them, gave me plenty of warning to fill up to make it home and plug it.

dvldrmmr 07-18-2014 09:03 AM

Unnecessary in my opinion, just like the backup cameras that are required on new cars in the next few years. Funny, if you walk to the back of the car to make sure you arent gonna run over anything, you pass the tires - two birds with one stone, and you didnt need all the extra b.s. that adds more cost to the vehicle and maintenance. I wish they would educate drivers instead of legislating out common sense.

gone-ot 07-18-2014 11:54 AM

Car drivers should perform a "walk around" just like aircraft pilots do so as to visually ensure that all parts are attahed and in good working order (wink,wink).


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