Go Back   EcoModder Forum > EcoModding > General Efficiency Discussion
Register Now
 Register Now
 

Reply  Post New Thread
 
Submit Tools LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 04-01-2013, 04:19 PM   #1 (permalink)
The PRC.
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Elsewhere.
Posts: 5,304
Thanks: 285
Thanked 536 Times in 384 Posts
Mitsubishi Mirage is, er, meh...

Mitsubishi Mirage | Auto Express

Quote:
The Mitsubishi Mirage is an efficient supermini that 's designed to rival value-for-money city cars and superminis such as the Dacia Sandero, Kia Rio and Fiat Panda. It comes well-equipped and is available with a choice of 1.0-litre or 1.2-litre three-cylinder petrol engines, both of which emit less than 100g/km of CO2. However, the Mirage isn't without flaws. The vague steering and poor handling place it at the bottom of the class for driving dynamics, while the interior looks and feels cheap. It's also quite expensive to buy and lacks the refinement and practicality of the best cars in the class.
2 stars out of 5. Hmm.

__________________
[I]So long and thanks for all the fish.[/I]
  Reply With Quote
Alt Today
Popular topics

Other popular topics in this forum...

   
Old 04-01-2013, 05:29 PM   #2 (permalink)
Batman Junior
 
MetroMPG's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: 1000 Islands, Ontario, Canada
Posts: 22,514

Blackfly - '98 Geo Metro
Team Metro
Last 3: 70.09 mpg (US)

MPGiata - '90 Mazda Miata
90 day: 52.71 mpg (US)

Even Fancier Metro - '14 Mitsubishi Mirage top spec
90 day: 70.75 mpg (US)

Appliance car - '14 Mitsubishi Mirage ES (base)
90 day: 52.48 mpg (US)
Thanks: 4,060
Thanked 6,959 Times in 3,603 Posts
In researching this car, I've read literally dozens and dozens of reviews in the last couple of months, and have learned we need to be wary of reviewers' opinions, and make up our own minds.

It's easy to find multiple examples where reviewers literally contradict one anothers' views, coming to polar opposite conclusions about the exact same feature/characteristic!

It borders on hilarious. So, just for fun I put together a list of examples concerning the Mirage from the professional reviewers: Why you should take car reviews with a giant grain of salt.

I'm not kidding: one will say the suspension is too soft; another will say it has a wonderfully comfortable ride for such a little car. One hates the plasticky interior, while another praises it for its "wipe down" practicality & durability. The list goes on and on.

(I have to admit though I do find it funny when reviewers criticise cheap econoboxes for being made with cheap materials, and for not handling like sports cars!)

All that said, the car is being criticized for a few things more often than not: its mushy handling/steering, its bland styling & spartan interior.

Sounds pretty much like what they'd have have said about my 15 year old Metro/Firefly.
__________________
Project MPGiata! Mods for getting 50+ MPG from a 1990 Miata
Honda mods: Ecomodding my $800 Honda Fit 5-speed beater
Mitsu mods: 70 MPG in my ecomodded, dirt cheap, 3-cylinder Mirage.
Ecodriving test: Manual vs. automatic transmission MPG showdown



EcoModder
has launched a forum for the efficient new Mitsubishi Mirage
www.MetroMPG.com - fuel efficiency info for Geo Metro owners
www.ForkenSwift.com - electric car conversion on a beer budget
  Reply With Quote
The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to MetroMPG For This Useful Post:
Frank Lee (04-02-2013), mechman600 (04-02-2013), NeilBlanchard (04-02-2013)
Old 04-01-2013, 05:36 PM   #3 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
RobertISaar's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: camden, MI
Posts: 324

MC SBX - '95 Chevrolet Monte Carlo LS
Last 3: 29.75 mpg (US)
Thanks: 7
Thanked 55 Times in 46 Posts
this is why the only real online research that i do is looking for interior pictures on cars.com.... then if i like what i see, i'll find a local example.

anything else is too much guesswork weeding out the accurate comments.
__________________
  Reply With Quote
Old 04-01-2013, 06:24 PM   #4 (permalink)
EcoModding Apprentice
 
PressEnter[]'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Saratoga County, NY
Posts: 170

TheEgg - '18 Volkswagen Tiguan SEL Premium
90 day: 29.55 mpg (US)
Thanks: 12
Thanked 17 Times in 17 Posts
Yes, the reviews are all over the place, but reading between the lines, the negatives seem fairly minor, at least to me. I wouldn't expect it to be an exciting car, but for what it is they seem to be on the right track.
__________________

  Reply With Quote
Old 04-01-2013, 11:09 PM   #5 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: ellington, ct
Posts: 829
Thanks: 44
Thanked 104 Times in 80 Posts
You see this problem most in car mags such as R&T or C&D. They criticize econoboxes or minivans for not downshifting rapidly enough or having 0-60 times under 9 seconds.

They seem to have trouble putting away their Porsche measuring stick while testing a Dodge Caravan.
  Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to pete c For This Useful Post:
Frank Lee (04-02-2013)
Old 04-02-2013, 01:54 AM   #6 (permalink)
(:
 
Frank Lee's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: up north
Posts: 12,762

Blue - '93 Ford Tempo
Last 3: 27.29 mpg (US)

F150 - '94 Ford F150 XLT 4x4
90 day: 18.5 mpg (US)

Sport Coupe - '92 Ford Tempo GL
Last 3: 69.62 mpg (US)

ShWing! - '82 honda gold wing Interstate
90 day: 33.65 mpg (US)

Moon Unit - '98 Mercury Sable LX Wagon
90 day: 21.24 mpg (US)
Thanks: 1,585
Thanked 3,555 Times in 2,218 Posts
Metro: ...and THAT is why I think Consumer Reports is only good for bird cage liner.
__________________


  Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Frank Lee For This Useful Post:
wdb (05-10-2013)
Old 04-02-2013, 04:12 AM   #7 (permalink)
The PRC.
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Elsewhere.
Posts: 5,304
Thanks: 285
Thanked 536 Times in 384 Posts
@Metro - agreed tests are all over the place. I just spotted it and noticed the new focus on your new car Auto Express is one of those magazines to take with several barrels of salt.

There is a difference in the environment between NA and Europe too - the Mirage will have a torrid time here as the competition is far more fierce. A more in depth review from Honest John concludes with :

Quote:
Overall the Mirage is a competent and comfortable small car that's easy to drive and performs well in town and on the motorway. It does lack character though, something which similarly priced alternatives like the trio of the Volkswagen Up, SEAT Mii and Skoda Citigo certainly don't. The Mirage doesn't outdo them in terms of equipment or price either. So while it's a good little car, there's not much to make it stand out against the competition. There's plenty of quality for buyers after a small and affordable car and unfortunately the Mirage looks like it has its work cut out to get noticed.
Out of interest apart from the Spark what other competition does the Mirage have in NA ?
__________________
[I]So long and thanks for all the fish.[/I]
  Reply With Quote
Old 04-02-2013, 04:24 AM   #8 (permalink)
EcoModding Apprentice
 
PressEnter[]'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Saratoga County, NY
Posts: 170

TheEgg - '18 Volkswagen Tiguan SEL Premium
90 day: 29.55 mpg (US)
Thanks: 12
Thanked 17 Times in 17 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by Arragonis View Post
Out of interest apart from the Spark what other competition does the Mirage have in NA ?
Not much, which is why I find it an interesting car. The Spark is the only 4-door rival, though if you wanted to stretch it, there's the Scion iQ. The new Nissan Versa Note sounds like it might be a competitor, but it hasn't been launched yet, either. Ford also says the Fiesta 1.0L turbo will be coming at some point, and that it will beat the Spark and iQ in combined driving mpg, which if true would be pretty impressive for something that size and power.
__________________

  Reply With Quote
Old 04-02-2013, 08:14 AM   #9 (permalink)
Banned
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: california
Posts: 1,329
Thanks: 24
Thanked 161 Times in 107 Posts
The best thing you can say about this car is that it has round wheels.
  Reply With Quote
Old 04-02-2013, 12:19 PM   #10 (permalink)
Rat Racer
 
Fat Charlie's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Route 16
Posts: 4,150

Al the Third, year four - '13 Honda Fit Base
Team Honda
90 day: 42.9 mpg (US)
Thanks: 1,784
Thanked 1,922 Times in 1,246 Posts
Actually, the best thing you can say about it is that it seems to really hate burning gas.

It can't carry a 4x8 sheet, it doesn't seat 7, it can't do a quarter in under 10 seconds and it absolutely sucks at rock crawling. It also seems to really suck at burning gas. And that's what it was designed for.

__________________

Quote:
Originally Posted by sheepdog44 View Post
Transmission type Efficiency
Manual neutral engine off.100% @MPG <----- Fun Fact.
Manual 1:1 gear ratio .......98%
CVT belt ............................88%
Automatic .........................86%

  Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Fat Charlie For This Useful Post:
3dplane (11-08-2013), Daox (04-02-2013)
Reply  Post New Thread


Thread Tools




Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.5.2
All content copyright EcoModder.com