Trend reversal: GM's new pickup trucks get worse MPG than last year's models
 

https://ecomodder.com/forum/attachme...1&d=1544554962
(A face only a mother could love: 2020 Chevy Silverado HD)

Despite being lighter and having more advanced tech, EPA ratings for GM's next generation pickups is worse than the outgoing models.

This reverses years of incremental MPG gains.

Source: https://www.motor1.com/news/295557/2...silverado-mpg/

And of course we already know the company's 4-cylinder turbo is also a let-down in the MPG department: Thread: Is America ready for 4-cylinder full-size pickup trucks? Because they're here (GM)

As for the EPA ratings quoted above, GM points the finger at increased frontal area for the drop. We haven't reached peak pickup truck size yet.

Why? The windshield seems to be approximately less than 1/3rd the height of the hood to bottom of the bumper???

https://ecomodder.com/forum/attachme...1&d=1544555508

It's bad, but it's not as bad as that. That pic is taken up close with a wide angle lens to make it look "snoutier."

Might as well try that same measurement method on this dog ;-)
https://i.imgur.com/bvDHKHD.jpg

There's the truck from a less silly angle. Still bad, and frankly, stupid-looking:
https://s.aolcdn.com/dims-global/dim...erado-hd-1.jpg

Pickup trucks are getting bigger, cars getting fewer and fewer. I smells a disaster brewing.
Gas is up to $3 a gallon some places the price of crude oil is around $50 a barrel.
What's going to happen when oil hits 100 a barrel again?
These pickup truck buyers need to taste the writing on the wall paper.

Yikes, that's pretty bad looking. I guess you need more grill area if you're going to be burning more fuel.

Fortunately I won't need another truck for a minimum of 15 years. This ugly grill-centric fad will have faded away by then.

Have they changed the EPA test again? Sometimes that is a reason a rating my be lower while real world may be better. Hard to say. I also don't see where you got that quote from, the link is just a picture and nowhere do I see what the 2020 Silverado HD is looking to get EPA. I don't think it even will get the V6 or the turbo 4, that's the 1500 trucks.

I see now, the picture is of a 2020 HD but you are talking about the new 2019 1500s. The new motors and transmissions actually do get better EPA ratings, but the old carryover motors get a bit worse. I might actually chalk that up to GM marketing to get you to spring for one of the more expensive options when side by side on the lot. Also there have been some reports the new 4 cylinder turbo is beating EPA estimates like a diesel does if driven short of "bat out of hell" required in the EPA test. Basically they set an acceleration rate not based on a flat number that all cars (or trucks) accelerate at, but a number based on throttle position. So a low power vehicle gets to do the 0-60 in say 15-20 secs while something with some balls has to do it in 8 secs just because it can. Same penalty applied to manual transmissions, they have to shift at the wrong points where an automatic or CVT gets do do it's own thing.

That and the truck is bigger but lighter so highway suffers, city improves.

Oops... will fix the link.

You're right: the EPA figures quoted are not for the HD trucks. Couldn't resist posting that ridiculous mug though. Neither could the source article.

smells
 

It's the law of the Paris dressmaker.Obey your television!
Really! Did you know that the Chevrolet bow-tie logo is from the wallpaper design of the 1920s or so,Ritz Hotel in Paris,France?
And manly,all-American patriots who eat only American-fries have been driving around with French art on their man-mobiles almost forever?
Love the irony!

Vehicles are supposed to be becoming all about safety with airbags and tech, yet they make the front of the car so large it's impossible to see half of what's in front of you. Reason 3466573 why I won't buy a truck.

As I’ve stated their goal is to make the new 1500 truck below

The endgame is to integrate the truck to the barn for the ultimate "Barn On Wheels" macho genitalia extender/female safety and security experience. This one is a work in progress:

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-xxLoZLjYJS...905130929a.jpg

An earlier scale "proof of concept" prototype:

http://www.shedsnashville.com/wp-con...ith-Wheels.jpg

P.S. The reason there is little to no outward visibility is that it isn't needed; these will be autonomous so that square dances and dairy operations and such can be indulged in while travelling if desired. But even in manual mode, such inconveniences as other traffic, pedestrians, residences, structures, and such can simply be obliterated as the collateral damage they are.

One model name under consideration is "Colossus Sport XXXL".

There's some speculation that car buyers are holding out for EVs but there's no EV truck available yet.

Here's a good YouTube video about the weird demand that EVs might cause. Or, I'm giving Americans too much credit and they really do think, "economy's good, I'm gonna buy the biggest vehicle I can afford."

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=aUC6lsLr04I

Guys! I just found a picture of the 2021 already!

https://ecomodder.com/forum/attachme...1&d=1544793768

^ Morning chuckle - thanks!

Is that what those guys said? They're completely wrong if so.

The general population doesn't have EVs on their radar, and they aren't holding out for anything.

Probably less than 10% of people even know what MPG their cars roughly average. Not many more know how much they spend in fuel monthly.

Finally, people buying new cars can afford to buy fuel, practically regardless of the current price. By definition they are more wealthy since they can afford the huge financial hit buying new represents. The new cars are what become used cars later on, so us used buyers are at the mercy of the whims of the wealthy.

Now let the bridge reconstruction begin so the truck can fit through. :D

Profit on pickups the only thing left.

Actually I think that’s just the 2020 Silverado 6500HD... complete with its 12.6L Duramax V8 and Alison automatic boasting a class leading 750hp/2650tq... when eqipped with tandem axles and diff locks it can launch to a 0-60 time of 7.5 seconds... fuel economy was measured at a class leading 8.4mpg...

That's just the ticket for my 200 mile daily solo unladen commute! (And multiple intra-daily walking-distance hops about town) :thumbup:

...except I want mine to have 10, 12, or maybe 16 cylinders.

-Duhmerican Slob

When will we have LED televisions behind the driver for our selfie studios?

Was on my way up through the Panhandle a week or so ago, and a retailer had gasoline at $1.66/gl.

At that price, who cares?

That’s the 1994 $1.00/gl.

Today a 400HP 6.2L GM Truck can hit 25-mpg at sub-60.

A 1992 255HP 7.5L GM couldn’t hit 12-mpg at that speed.

If there was an emoji for ROFL...I would post it.

I'll keep my 2003 GMC Sierra 6.0L 4 speed auto...for my uses it far exceeds any truck out there today.

My dad has a 1999 of the same, but the frame rusted out on it. :( Good truck otherwise....besides the MPG. ;)

We're NOT in the Age of Aquarius, but the Age of "don'T rump". How quickly is "don'T rumpism" spreading? Very quickly.