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RobbMeeX 02-09-2017 08:10 PM

TriboTEX: You too can help Kickstart this scam!
 
TriboTEX: More Engine HP, Better Mileage, Less Wear & Tear


TriboTEX improves horsepower by 3-5%, gas mileage and reverses wear using nanoparticles developed with the DoE, NASA, and NSF.

"Easily relieves suckers of their unwanted money. Act now!"

mcrews 02-09-2017 08:12 PM

".....developed with the DoE, NASA, and NSF"

They had me until NSF (non-sufficient funds)!!!!! :rolleyes:

Stubby79 02-09-2017 10:00 PM

I love me some snake oil! :thumbup:

Xist 02-09-2017 11:17 PM

National Science Foundation?

RustyLugNut 02-10-2017 03:26 PM

Thanks for bringing this company to our attention. I'm of the mind to try it as soon as it hits the market. They have already met funding for their Kickstart.

There is tremendous new breakthroughs in tribology (science of friction) and much of it is in the interaction of nano particles. This company is based on good research done at the University of Washington and funded by various groups and granting. This is not proof of concept but much closer to launch.

We all know most oil additives are useless in the realm of hydrodynamic lubrication, but the internal combustion engine still has a major metal to metal contact point - the piston/cylinder interface. If this substance can reduce that friction in any way, it becomes a viable material.

I used titanium nano particles on a 3 cylinder engine a decade back. They were burnished into the cylinder walls after break in of the engine and disassembly for inspection. The before and after was one of those "Wow" moments. It took about 7 ft.lbs. of torque to rotate the crank before the nano treatment. After, it was less than a foot pound.

I am interested in TriboTex claims of it's abilities to "rebuild" a machine surface. All nano particle lubes eventually wear off. How do they hope to build a surface?

oldtamiyaphile 02-10-2017 07:56 PM

Subscribed to hear your findings when it comes out.

I actually believe in additives to a point. Quite a few actually do have OEM approval.

It would be interesting to run a before and after compression test on an older engine to see if it does build a surface.

jakobnev 02-11-2017 07:35 AM

It seems in eight years they haven't put an engine on a test bench where all the variables could be controlled.

The sceptic in me "wonders" why.

Vman455 02-15-2017 01:40 AM

Well, their ad copy is riddled with outright lies right off the bat.

"Average gas mileage for new cars has stagnated around 22 MPG for the last 20 years."

According to the University of Michigan's Transportation Research Institute, average fuel economy of new cars has hovered around 25 MPG for the past two years, up from 20 MPG in 2007. It certainly hasn't been stagnant for two decades.

"Traditional engines are only 30% efficient at best."

Many cars today have engines with peak thermal efficiency higher than 30%. The current Prius, for instance, achieves peak thermal efficiency of 40%, as does the new hyundai Ioniq, and the 2018 Camry, among others.

"Cars are generally discarded after 100K miles due to the stress and heat caused by friction inside the engine, which leads to lost compression and efficiency."

The average age of cars on American roads today is more than 11 years old. "The number of vehicles on the road that are at least 25 years old is about 14 million. That's up from about 8 million in 2002. Those are vehicles made in 1990 or earlier. Meanwhile, the number of vehicles that are 16 to 24 years old is 44 million. That's up from 26 million in 2002, according to IHS. 'There’s quite a bit of evidence of these vehicles lasting longer, staying on the road longer, people hanging on to them longer,' Seng said."

That doesn't incline me to take the rest of their claims seriously.

TriboTEX 02-18-2017 03:57 PM

Sorry to join your respectful company right at the moment of being talked about, but would gladly answer your further questions here. The easiest way to form your own opinion is to test and feel yourself.

I do recognize and acknowledge that this market is filled with skepticism and product of various quality, but hope that what we do make a difference to the better.

Yes. NSF is National Science Foundation. and Google still works
https://www.google.com/search?q=nsf+tribotex

Jakobnev: We tested way more than one as well as gearboxes and ASTM bench tests that go into certification.

Vman455: Great references. Marketing talks were about averages of cars on road and ownership patterns as well as averages and you cite peak parameters of cars that are not released yet. Oldest and average cars are usually not a first owner cars.

California98Civic 02-18-2017 07:29 PM

Subscribed to see if any testing ever appears for comment here.


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