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Trollinsight Modding Thread (2000 Honda Insight)

Hi folks!

Yesterday, I wen't to Gatineau to buy a 1st gen Insight! This was definitely the best drive I ever had in my life! All I can say about the price I paid is that it was dirt cheap$ for what I got. It is a 2000, Manual transmission, ~200600 at purchase km and counting, color : Silverstone Metallic NH-630M (dooh).

Link to EcoModder Garage : Trollinsight

EPA : 49 City \ 61 Highway \ 53 Combined MPG (US) | Fuel Economy

Summer MPG's : 85 to 130 MPG in city \ 90 to 110 MPG on highway.

Winter MPG's : 55 to 90 MPG in city \ 75 to 95 MPG on highway.




Pro's:

-OEM Honda Rims.
-Working IMA Battery System.
-Good Tranny.
-Low (for me) Mileage (200 502 km at purshase).
-New 12v Baterry.
-Better Grounds.
-New catalyst.
-New Shifter Cable.
-New OEM Rear Wheel Skirts.
-PO was the first owner of this car.
-All Services & Oil Changes done.
-New Kenwood Radio/MP3/Ipod Player.
-New Floor Mats.
-New Bridgestone Blizzak 165/65/14'' Winter tires.
-Block Heater (Bought a New Cable and Works Great).


Con's:

-Missing Underbelly Pannels.
-Broken Rear Shocks.
-Lots of dents & scuffs on the front bumper.
-Lots of things are held up by zip-ties underneath the car.
-Lot of rust in the Engine Bay.
-Hood is tough to close.
-Highest Intensity of Wipers isn't working.
-Rear Bumper is legerly deattached.
-Rear Kamm Spoiler is depicted.
-Driver door Window's bottom pannel is depicted (Fixed).
-Driver door window doesn't close properly.
-There is a medium dent on the rear bumper.
-NO Bridgestone Potenza RE92 165/65/14'' (Fixed).
-Cracked Windshield.
-No Trunk Net (not that worst).
-Trip Button Not Working (Fixed).


Up to Date List of my Current Aeromods :

-New Rear Fender Skirts
-Stock Front Wheel Spats
-Stock Rear Wheel Spats
-Stock Front Wheel Arch Deflector
-Stock Belly Pans (Missing some... Need a DIY one)
-Stock Wheel Covers
-100% Lower Grille Block
-Antenna Remove
-Sealed Gaps Around Headlights
-Rear Hatch Wiper Removed In Summer


Planned Aeromods :

-Upper Grille Block
-Passenger Side Mirror Delete (Replace with Interior)
-Smaller Driver Side Mirror (Interior One too)
-Kammback (Maybe Boat-Tail)
-Articulated and Top Hinged Front Wheel Skirts
-DIY Front Belly Pan
-DIY Rear Belly Pan


Inside of the Car Modifications :

-ScanGauge-II
-Daytime Running Lights (DRL) Disabled
-Electric Power-Steering (EPS) Disabled
-Electric Block Heater
-Engine Pad Heater (125w)
-Fire Blanket
-LED 25w Headlights, Side Markers Lights, Position Lights, Dome Light, Map Lights, Tail Lights, Liscence Plate Light & Trunk Light
-LRR Summer Tires (Bridgestone Potenza RE92 P165/65R14, 50 Psi All Around)
-Winter Tires (Bridgestone Blizzak P165/65R14, 45 Psi All Around)
-IMA Inhibit Switch (CLutch Switch)
-2 A 12V Battery Grid Charger
-350 mA 144v Battery Grid Charger & 1.15 A Discharger
-Syntec Motor Oil (Mobil 1 Advanced Fuel Economy 0w-20)
-Accord 2.3L EGR Valve


Planned Inside Modifications :

-Hand-Throttle
-Manual Integrated Motor Assist (MIMA)
-Forced Auto Stop (FAS)
-Bumblebee MaxIMA Battery (6.5 Ah --> 8.0 Ah)
-Ducting From Grille Block Hole to Radiator
-Air Conditioning Delete
-LED Cluster Lights
-Mechanical Water Pump Delete
-Electric Water Pump & EWP Digital Controller
-More Weight Remove
-Syntec Transmission Oil (Honda MTF)


The Ultimate Goal #1 (2013-2014):

My goal is to achieve 100+ MPG tanks [X] , 110+ MPG trips [X] and 117+ MPG highscore (under 2L/100KM) [X] .

The Ultimate Goal #2 (2015-2016):

My new goal is to achieve 117+ MPG tanks [ ] , 130+ MPG trips [ ] and 150+ MPG highscore [ ] .


For now my highest segment score is 151 MPG (1.56 LHK) on the returning trip of my Costco Commute (3.2 mi.) my best trip is 109.7 MPG (2.2 LHK) SMCC 2014 and back (47.2 mi.). My best cummute (7.5 mi.) is 119.8 MPG (1.96 LHK) for the go trip, 132.4 MPG (1.78 LHK) for the returning trip, for an average of 126.1 MPG (1.87 LHK) and my best tank is 94.7 MPG (2.48 LHK) (1004.3 mi. on 40.15 Liters (10.6 Gal US)).


The Car :







FCD showed 79.6 MPG (US) / 2.95 L/100 KM after returning from Gatineau.

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Best commute : 130.8 MPG (US) | 157.1 MPG (Imp) | 1.8 L/100Km | 54.84 Km/L
Best Trip : 111.8 MPG (US) | 134.3 MPG (Imp) | 2.1 L/100Km | 47.53 Km/L

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-Rear Kamm Spoiler is depicted.
-Driver door Window's bottom pannel is depicted.
Congratulations!

However, will you please clarify what you mean by "depicted?" Is there some problem that I should have recognized from the pictures? Thanks!

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Nice car! As for the "issues" with it, man it's 13 years old, all that stuff is minor! You joined the 369 Club today, welcome! Here's your key to the members lounge lol. You are also a member of the 155 Club, seeing as it's a 2000. Someone will send you a memo on the secret handshake for that club.

Of the 369 sold in Canada, I wonder how many of them are owned by people on this site?

And 200k KMs is nothing! You did good with this one. One of mine has 372k KMs on it, and it's fine! The engine has never been apart, and it has never used any oil since I have owned it. My "low KM" one has 264k KMs, so you have my twins beat lol. I'm jealous!
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Very exciting - congrats!
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However, will you please clarify what you mean by "depicted?" Is there some problem that I should have recognized from the pictures? Thanks!
The pictures above doesn't show it, but I took better pictures to show you :

This is the driver's side, you can see that the metal gray part is supposed to be all black.


Look at the other side :


This is how the Kammback looks


Front Bumper (Left) :


Front Bumper (Right) :


All the spots are dents, not dust.
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2000 Honda Insight MT Silverstone Metallic #95 (CAN) 131K mi. 81.7 Lmpg
Best Tank : 100.06 MPG (US) | 120.2 MPG (Imp) | 2.35 L/100Km | 42.54 Km/L
Best commute : 130.8 MPG (US) | 157.1 MPG (Imp) | 1.8 L/100Km | 54.84 Km/L
Best Trip : 111.8 MPG (US) | 134.3 MPG (Imp) | 2.1 L/100Km | 47.53 Km/L

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Nice car! As for the "issues" with it, man it's 13 years old, all that stuff is minor! You joined the 369 Club today, welcome! Here's your key to the members lounge lol. You are also a member of the 155 Club, seeing as it's a 2000. Someone will send you a memo on the secret handshake for that club.

And 200k KMs is nothing! You did good with this one. One of mine has 372k KMs on it, and it's fine! The engine has never been apart, and it has never used any oil since I have owned it. My "low KM" one has 264k KMs, so you have my twins beat lol. I'm jealous!
Hahahaha! The secret handshake part made my day . Yeah, 200k kms is low. Is there a way to check the lifetime mileage since new? Because all I can display with the FCD button is the trip A and lifetime since I reseted it.
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2000 Honda Insight MT Silverstone Metallic #95 (CAN) 131K mi. 81.7 Lmpg
Best Tank : 100.06 MPG (US) | 120.2 MPG (Imp) | 2.35 L/100Km | 42.54 Km/L
Best commute : 130.8 MPG (US) | 157.1 MPG (Imp) | 1.8 L/100Km | 54.84 Km/L
Best Trip : 111.8 MPG (US) | 134.3 MPG (Imp) | 2.1 L/100Km | 47.53 Km/L
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Very exciting - congrats!
Thank you metro! It is fun to say that the first car I bought is my dream car .
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2000 Honda Insight MT Silverstone Metallic #95 (CAN) 131K mi. 81.7 Lmpg
Best Tank : 100.06 MPG (US) | 120.2 MPG (Imp) | 2.35 L/100Km | 42.54 Km/L
Best commute : 130.8 MPG (US) | 157.1 MPG (Imp) | 1.8 L/100Km | 54.84 Km/L
Best Trip : 111.8 MPG (US) | 134.3 MPG (Imp) | 2.1 L/100Km | 47.53 Km/L
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There are 4 separate numeric mileage gauges: lifetime, "segment" via FCD button on left of dashboard, trip A, trip B.

Which one did you reset? If you reset lifetime, the old data is lost.

To view the lifetime figure, use the trip button. It cycles between A-B-lifetime.
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All the spots are dents, not dust.
Yes! That is much clearer! Thank you very much!

Yes, my first car had some pitting in the front from gravel or something and I think that much of the black coating on the metal trim was in the process of peeling off. I would think that a paint job would fix the front, although it may slowly get damaged again. While Aerohead says that the front ends are usually pretty aerodynamic, and Insights should have the best, if you ever decided to try to make it more aerodynamic, that would also protect the bumper.

As for the trim, guys, can he paint that with Plasti-dip?
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My trip button doesn't switch between Trip A-Trip B-Lifetime. It stays at Trip A. If I push the FCD button it toggles from Trip A-segment. What is the problem in your opinion?

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Best Tank : 100.06 MPG (US) | 120.2 MPG (Imp) | 2.35 L/100Km | 42.54 Km/L
Best commute : 130.8 MPG (US) | 157.1 MPG (Imp) | 1.8 L/100Km | 54.84 Km/L
Best Trip : 111.8 MPG (US) | 134.3 MPG (Imp) | 2.1 L/100Km | 47.53 Km/L
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