U.S. Scrappage Scheme Moving Forward
Since we last reported on the situation, the two sides have come to an agreement on how to move forward with the scrappage scheme. Both sides have compromised, and a lot of the worst parts (like that American-only clause) have been stripped from the proposal, but it’s still nothing to be happy about.Having become even [...]Related posts:
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so my 1981 Comutacar and my 50mpg 1970 subaru 360 will need to be scrapped under their plan because they are old an inefficient?
Nah, but I have a feeling the underlying causes might enventually make it read that way as they aren't doing it as much for efficiency as a bailout. |
According to that article, they don't NEED to be scrapped, but they may be and you won't get any kind of rebate unless that car's EPA is less than the one you're buying to replace it.
Don't the japanese have a much more agressive scrapping program for engines? I totally agree that a 1mpg EPA difference does not warrant a big government check. How about "scrap your vehicle and buy a replacement having 20% better EPA rating and we'll give you x dollars". This way there is some incentive for all those hummer driving soccer moms to get into a prius. Your list made no mention of ditching a truck in favour of a car. |
so wait....my audi gets 19mpg (epa rated) so does that mean if I trade it in for a 41mpg Smart car that I won't get the $4500?? The article only mentioned vehicles with less than 18mpg.
This will suck if I can't get the voucher...I was really hoping to do it. |
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From what I have read, the Japanese market is far more aggressive when it comes to planned obsolescence. They make the re-certification rules so stringent that you almost *have* to buy a new car every 4 years. This helps the Japanese domestic automakers because they have an almost "guaranteed turnover" when it comes to sales at home. I think this is what makes the JDM aftermarket so lucrative. You can import an otherwise "young healthy" engine from Japan that was too old to pass Japanese certification. I would have kept the "American Only" clause. Technically it's "my" tax money, so I want it to go to domestic manufacturing. I would modify the rebate to be a scaling delta-T equation. Forget about a specific before/after MPG. How about $200 for every MPG better than the previous MPG? Changing from : http://ecomodder.com/forum/attachmen...1&d=1241731956 To : http://ecomodder.com/forum/attachmen...1&d=1241731956 Would yield => 29 - 15 = 14 => 14 * 200 = $2800 CarloSW2 . |
^^ now that's smart!!
Something I don't agree with is the idea that we should be FORCED to buy american with that rebate. I think American manufacturing should compete for itself against the others. I don't want to be forced to buy an inferior product for a discount. Another thing is, assume I was forced to buy American and I decided to buy a new camaro. Those are made in Canada. I'm not "really" buying american am I? |
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They have a domestic content on automobile stickers. The scale could be modified to reflect that : Same initial equation: 29 - 15 = 14 => 14 * 200 = $2800 However, let's say that the Pontiac Vibe example only uses 70% domestic content. Multiply the rebate by the ratio : $2800 * 0.70 = $1960 Here's an article on "domestic content". A Closer Look at Domestic-Parts Content Code:
That doesn't mean dealerships are teeming with cars that have CarloSW2 |
Just to chime in: I think this program sucks. While the japanese market export their old cars, this plan will be crushing perfectly good cars in large numbers.
Stupid. |
I wouldn't consider my 1992 Audi 100 as "perfectly good". It's a 100% clunker...hence the name, cash for clunkers. It's no like I'm trading a 2006 Dodge Viper for a prius.
Also, can someone else verify for me (or do I have to wait) that I'll be able to get this credit even though my audi is rated at 19mpg? I've already picked out a lovely new 2009 Smart Passion at my dealer. I told him as soon as the law was signed I'd pick it up. |
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Here is the latest I can find, but I don't think it has the details you want, :( : U.S. House members reach deal on cash for clunkers - May 5, 2009 Quote:
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