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Xist 04-27-2018 04:22 PM

What if Walter White had led a school strike?
 
You know, that guy that got sick, so he created an illegal Scrabble ring or something.

I do not watch shows about bad people.

Anyway, you could have had a gripping drama about someone fighting the system, and improving it for everyone, but no, it was a show about Scrabble, or whatever.

No wonder they canceled it. Who wants to watch a show about Scrabble?!

And criminals!

redpoint5 04-27-2018 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Xist (Post 568006)
I do not watch shows about bad people.

You don't watch worthwhile shows then.

Any story worth telling shows the journey from being in the wrong place, to ending somewhere better. Either that, or it is a cautionary story showing how ordinary people descend into the utter depths of evil.

Either way, the stories are about us, and our susceptibility to do good or evil.

I don't know what the point of Gilmore Girls is. White noise if you ask me.

Also, please no spoilers, I haven't finished watching the series.

Xist 04-27-2018 05:42 PM

"Gilmore Girls?" Everyone died in the end.

You are welcome.

As to the Scrabble mastermind, they are just glorifying evil.

redpoint5 04-27-2018 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Xist (Post 568012)
"Gilmore Girls?" Everyone died in the end.

You are welcome.

As to the Scrabble mastermind, they are just glorifying evil.

I LoLed.

Since I haven't watched the show to the end, I don't know what the overall message is. So far, I've mostly seen bad dudes who are attempting to profit from Scrabble meet their demise. I've also seen a handful of relatively innocent people become casualties of this game of Scrabble.

I find it to be a fascinating exploration of the disease, and of the cure. Sometimes the prescription has side effects that are worse than the disease. What to do about Scrabble is a difficult subject, and one worth exploring.

Xist 04-27-2018 06:24 PM

For a while my sister protested Disney movies, insisting they glorified evil. I looked at at lists of main Disney, Marvel, and Star Wars villains.

Darth Vader was the only villain that I have liked. As much as I have liked the new "Star Wars" movies, I wish they had redone the prequels. I never plan on watching those again. I have always wondered how I felt about myself for liking Darth Vader.

Someone convinced me to take her to watch "Suicide Squad" for her birthday. I hated and despised that movie. They had some talented actors, but while they acted like they were trying to prove these villains had redeeming qualities, they failed in every regard. "Killshot just wants to be a good father!"

That is why his deepest desire is to kill Batman, who arguably keeps Killshot's daughter safe.

Nice.

Then again, there is the trend to show that superheroes are "real people" and do bad things, too.

Meanwhile, are we supposed to believe it is a coincidence at Arizona teachers refused to work on the day that "Avengers III" came out?

Ha!

redpoint5 04-27-2018 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Xist (Post 568020)
For a while my sister protested Disney movies, insisting they glorified evil. I looked at at lists of main Disney, Marvel, and Star Wars villains.

Darth Vader was the only villain that I have liked. As much as I have liked the new "Star Wars" movies, I wish they had redone the prequels. I never plan on watching those again. I have always wondered how I felt about myself for liking Darth Vader.

To the contrary, I find most Disney movies to convey both truth and morality, and showing the consequences of evil.

The Star Wars prequel story is a difficult one to tell because it's so dark. Obviously it was not done well, but since the franchise depends upon children to make a ton of money, it had to be light enough for younger audiences. My preference would have been to tell a better story and sacrifice some merchandising, but that's the world we live in.

Liking Darth Vader is a sign that you're a good person. He's a good person who did very evil things, and then redeemed himself when it mattered most. Or do you just like that he can choke a person out from a distance? :p

Xist 04-27-2018 07:24 PM

I guess that if I had to choose, I would take the Mute button from "Click." Then I would feel better about myself.

The only thing I liked about Kylo Ren was his Force choke.

I have long wished I could pay the guys from How it Should Have Ended to make a half-hour animated version of "The Phantom Menace" with Lieutenant Disher from "Monk" replacing Jar Jar.

If I ever see "Batman Versus Superman" in the $5 bin I want to digitize it and replace parts with the relevant scenes from How it Should Have Ended.

You could argue that Darth Vader was no-nonsense. I do like that about him.

cRiPpLe_rOoStEr 04-27-2018 11:11 PM

Police-themed TV shows are quite popular in my country, but it's more out of curiosity about police operations than to glorify criminals.

jamesqf 04-28-2018 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Xist (Post 568020)
For a while my sister protested Disney movies, insisting they glorified evil.

Well, that depends on your point of view, doesn't it? One of the reasons I haven't really watched TV since my teens is that I found myself more sympathetic to the villains & monsters than to the supposed heros.

Xist 04-28-2018 03:19 PM

Perhaps had Belle been nice to Gaston he would have turned around and Beast and his castle still would have been awesome.

hamsterpower 04-29-2018 06:25 AM

Perhaps if Belle had looked past to two imposing, hostile, and abusive leading men she would have noticed the smart, productive, but quiet man in town that actually shared some of her interests and would have shown kids how to have a healthy relationship. But once again it's find the biggest and richest and try to change him. "He only locks her up sometimes" is not an acceptable trait.

freebeard 05-01-2018 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Xist
I have always wondered how I felt about myself for liking Darth Vader.

I listen to this about six times a day:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RV5WqRnFejI

redpoint5 05-01-2018 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by hamsterpower (Post 568147)
Perhaps if Belle had looked past to two imposing, hostile, and abusive leading men she would have noticed the smart, productive, but quiet man in town that actually shared some of her interests and would have shown kids how to have a healthy relationship. But once again it's find the biggest and richest and try to change him. "He only locks her up sometimes" is not an acceptable trait.

Yeah, agreed, but that's not how human nature is. Women like the domineering ones and the challenge to bring that person under their control. It's how women gain power and influence.

My experience is women who are most outgoing, flirtatious and attractive generally gravitate toward the domineering men. They simply aren't attracted to guys who like to watch Gilmore Girls and knit.

We are descended of a violent past, and being influential and confronting physical threats are what protected the women and children.

I kinda think modern society is depressed and obese partially due to our success in feminizing men. 40% of US women are not just overweight, but obese. It's like they have given up on being attractive to men, and likewise, men have given up on pursuing a woman by not developing strength of character.

Xist 05-01-2018 03:22 PM

How about obese and obnoxious women that insist they are hot?

John Eldredge calls the modern man "Domesticated."

redpoint5 05-01-2018 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Xist (Post 568424)
How about obese and obnoxious women that insist they are hot?

John Eldredge calls the modern man "Domesticated."

Yeah, the whole "beautiful the way you are" movement is garbage. That's like me saying I'm attractive being "domesticated". Wild at Heart resonates with my personality.

I'm not saying we should loathe ourselves or ridicule others, only that things within our control which can be improved should not be given up on.

"Love yourself" is the right mindset. It has to be followed with "act like you love yourself", which requires effort.

Xist 05-01-2018 03:58 PM

I took a global health class at Arizona State and we needed to read a short article on fat acceptance and then nine longer ones on things that mean people are intolerant of, such as:

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Obesity is a serious concern because it is associated with poorer mental health outcomes, reduced quality of life, and the leading causes of death in the U.S. and worldwide, including diabetes, heart disease, stroke, and some types of cancer.
https://www.cdc.gov/obesity/adult/causes.html

Jerks!

I thoroughly enjoyed "Wild at Heart," it helped me understand why so many women say they just want a nice guy, but they insist on dating jerks--they lie to themselves!

They want Prince Charming. Nobody describes Prince Charming as "nice.'

jamesqf 05-02-2018 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by redpoint5 (Post 568420)
My experience is women who are most outgoing, flirtatious and attractive generally gravitate toward the domineering men. They simply aren't attracted to guys who like to watch Gilmore Girls and knit.

The problem there is that is not simply one or the other. There are a lot of domineering men out there who, when it comes right down to it, are basically lily-livered wussies if faced with anyone as strong as they are.

redpoint5 05-02-2018 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by jamesqf (Post 568459)
The problem there is that is not simply one or the other. There are a lot of domineering men out there who, when it comes right down to it, are basically lily-livered wussies if faced with anyone as strong as they are.

Men aren't as brave and awesome as they let on, and women's lips aren't that red in real life. We live for fantasy, not reality.

Fat Charlie 05-02-2018 11:39 AM

I am. :cool:



Going back a bit, the worst part of having kids was knowing that some day I'd have to see the prequels with them. We got through them in a marathon and quickly moved on to the real movies to get the bad taste out of our mouths.

redpoint5 05-02-2018 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Charlie (Post 568482)
the worst part of having kids was knowing that some day I'd have to see the prequels with them. We got through them in a marathon and quickly moved on to the real movies to get the bad taste out of our mouths.

Even worse than watching the movies is that they might like the prequels better, or worst of all, like Jar Jar the best.

There is a small chance that my first child is born today. I'll try my best to steer her towards the light side.

jamesqf 05-02-2018 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by redpoint5 (Post 568460)
Men aren't as brave and awesome as they let on...

Some are. I've met a few over the years. But I've never known one of them to run off at the mouth about it.

redpoint5 05-02-2018 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by jamesqf (Post 568498)
Some are. I've met a few over the years. But I've never known one of them to run off at the mouth about it.

Let's just assume from here on out that everything I say is a generality unless I'm speaking of something in specific.

We all know what red and yellow is. The existence of orange does not disprove red and yellow.

freebeard 05-02-2018 07:33 PM

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We all know what red and yellow is. The existence of orange does not disprove red and yellow.
Are we talking Newtonian color theory or Goethean color theory. Because it's all an illusion based on black and white.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theory_of_colours

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...ectrum.svg.png

My room's windows are filled with Fresnel lenses*, so the shadows all have psychedelic fringes. :cool: Like the rightmost column it's mostly white with red/yellow along one side and blue/violet at 90°.

*14" square, out of old overhead projectors, if you're wondering.

redpoint5 05-02-2018 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by freebeard (Post 568530)
Are we talking Newtonian color theory or Goethean color theory. Because it's all an illusion based on black and white.

I was going to use man and woman as my example, but wanted to avoid that tangent. Point is, just because there are instances where concrete lines are blurred, it does not invalidate the general premise.

freebeard 05-02-2018 11:14 PM

I knew that.

'The exception proves the rule.'

I just wanted to take the opportunity to talk up non-Newtonian color theory. What were were we talking about? Jar-Jar Binks? Scrabble?

redpoint5 05-03-2018 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by freebeard (Post 568552)
I knew that.

I knew that you knew that. I was just explaining for the larger audience.

This thread was meant to be derailed.

Xist 05-03-2018 02:59 AM

Did someone mention The King of Random (or at least The Boy wonder)?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpNmTrTWwWY

freebeard 05-03-2018 11:14 AM

I thought you were the king of random. :confused:

jamesqf 05-03-2018 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by redpoint5 (Post 568518)
Let's just assume from here on out that everything I say is a generality unless I'm speaking of something in specific.

Sure. I'm just pointing out that your generality is generally wrong :-)


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