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Arragonis 09-02-2010 02:48 PM

What is a Kilotank ?
 
1K miles or 1K Kilometres.

I feel a success coming on... :D

RobertSmalls 09-02-2010 02:58 PM

The answer is yes.

Nevyn 09-02-2010 03:08 PM

That depends, are you talking a metric kilotank or a US kilotank? :p :p

groar 09-02-2010 03:41 PM

I would say that it depends on your longest tank and native units ;) In every case, as soon as you hit the kilo-kilometer, your goal is the kilo-miles :turtle:

I reached 1825km (1134mi) lately, so my next goal is 2000km (1243mi).

Now some people have 45L (11.8 USgal) tanks, while others (as I do :o) have 60L (15.9 USgal)...

While a kilo-miles with a 45L tank is 2.797L/100 (84.75USMPG), a kilo-kilometer with a 60L tank is 6L/100 (39.2USMPG).

POE (Pourcentage Over EPA, whoever is your "EPA") is a little bit more fair. I scored over +100% :cool: but traffic and warm weather are back :(

Have fun at improving your PB,

Denis.

Arragonis 09-02-2010 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Nevyn (Post 192157)
That depends, are you talking a metric kilotank or a US kilotank? :p :p

You are so 2D - there are 2 non-metric measurements....:turtle: I only use the measurements of her majesty. If you choose to use lesser Colonial measurements then, well, thats you...:D

Just wondered as I approach 650 miles which is over 1000 km (621 miles is 1000km). Can I claim a success ? It is to me.

groar 09-02-2010 04:32 PM

As I said, I soon as you beat a record, you can beat another one... after a while you get that :

New World Record Challenge: over 50km/L(117mpg) tank - PriusChat Forums

Quote:

MFD display FE: 50.2km/L (118.1mpg or 1.99L/100km)
distance: 3040.1km (1889.4miles)
fuel refill: 60.16L (15.89 US gallons)
calculated FE: 50.53km/L (118.9mpg or 1.98L/100km)
Have fun,

Denis.

euromodder 09-02-2010 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arragonis (Post 192172)
I only use the measurements of her majesty. If you choose to use lesser Colonial measurements then, well, thats you...:D
Just wondered as I approach 650 miles which is over 1000 km (621 miles is 1000km). Can I claim a success ? It is to me.

As a lowly subject of your majesty, you certainly can not claim succes by using such alien measurements as the kilometre ! The horror !


Good work though :thumbup:



But I still got 65.3 mpg out of my sister's Fabia 1.4D without really trying :D
(That's 78.5 mpg UK ! )

Hehe :)

Arragonis 09-02-2010 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by euromodder (Post 192176)
But I still got 65.3 mpg out of my sister's Fabia 1.4D without really trying :D
(That's 78.5 mpg UK ! )

Hehe :)

That is good.

But this is a BMW 330D eating VRS...

We shall see. I have loads of miles left in this tank yet. :thumbup:

One aspect of Ecodriving is the tank range. Previously I would fill up twice a month. At my current rate my fuel may 'go off' before I use it all.

brucey 09-02-2010 05:19 PM

Oh MAN.

Now I want to do a metric kilotank. My biggest tank so far has been exactly 600 miles and that was absolutely pushing it. Can I squeeze another 20 miles out of that?!

320touring 09-02-2010 06:39 PM

what is a kilotank?

Good question, i have two answers..
A) bloody good work in your pd130 rocketship!

B) impossible in my scab turdbo-i'd need 48+UK mpg..

Next goal is 700 for you!

you made 129% yet?

robchalmers 09-03-2010 01:50 AM

I'm aiming for a 'kilokilo' (1000km) tank first in chug with its diddy tank I'll never get to a 1000m tank on a 10 IMP gallon tank.

Arragonis 09-03-2010 10:47 AM

KiloKilo seems like a good phrase to use, consider it adopted :D

I shall hit a Kilokilo tank I think sometime next week with a few trips out and about needed instead of my fuel sapping 'Embra' commute...

Varn 09-03-2010 01:07 PM

My minivan (26g) and my Econoline (35g) have the potential to do 600 highway miles on a tank. Neither of which are really that economical except when you consider their specific mileage.

I don't see the relevance of a Kilo-tank or a Kilo-Kilo except define the vehicle range which could come in handy in an emergency.

I know this next comment is OT:
I am ignorant of why you talk of imperial mpg, I had thought that england went to the metric system. Perhaps it is a bit like peru where they use the metric system for everything except fuel where they use the US Gallon. Or here in the USA where most medical is metric and the civilian population uses english measurement except of course for volume among others.

I still get a laugh out of NASA sticking a valuable weather satellite into Mars because the ground computers used Pounds and the spacecraft used Newtons in calculating thrust.

robchalmers 09-03-2010 01:19 PM

We use Metric for all but human weight (stone, and lbs) and driving (miles and the proper :) gallon ).

Food and drink is metric along with technical measurement.

jamesqf 09-03-2010 02:00 PM

I'm sorry, but according to official measurement standards (there's some international standards group that defines them, but I'm too lazy to look up the name), a kilotank would be 1000 tanks, just as a kilometer is 1000 meters, a kilogram is 1000 grams, etc.

With about 95K of my miles on the Insight, and figuring a conservative 700 miles per tank, I'm only at 0.135 Ktanks. I've had the car 7 years, so at this rate I'll get to a kilotank sometime around 2060 :-)

bestclimb 09-03-2010 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brucey (Post 192187)
Oh MAN.

Now I want to do a metric kilotank. My biggest tank so far has been exactly 600 miles and that was absolutely pushing it. Can I squeeze another 20 miles out of that?!

You should squeeze another 21.37 out of it. No sense stopping just short:D

Nevyn 09-03-2010 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arragonis (Post 192172)
You are so 2D - there are 2 non-metric measurements....:turtle: I only use the measurements of her majesty. If you choose to use lesser Colonial measurements then, well, thats you...:D

Just wondered as I approach 650 miles which is over 1000 km (621 miles is 1000km). Can I claim a success ? It is to me.

No, not 2-D. :p I thought of including other units, but decided that I was too lazy at the time. :thumbup:

rfdesigner 09-03-2010 04:30 PM

hmmm 1000km on a tank... that would be 621.4miles

I almost get that on the urban cycle!.. well not quite, but I did average that from the car as stock and no hypermiling.

but them I get over 15 uk gallons in tank!:D.. only downside is at the cashier.. almost topped £100 a tank at the peak of the oil spike.

better aim for the 1000mile/tank, that at least would be a challenge.

Derek

Arragonis 09-04-2010 04:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Varn (Post 192292)
I know this next comment is OT:
I am ignorant of why you talk of imperial mpg, I had thought that england went to the metric system. Perhaps it is a bit like peru where they use the metric system for everything except fuel where they use the US Gallon. Or here in the USA where most medical is metric and the civilian population uses english measurement except of course for volume among others.

As Rob tapped we use a mix of Imperial and Metric in the UK (remember England is just one part). In terms of measurement sometimes when I'm in the US it reminds me of 1950s Britiain with ounces, fl oz, etc. which aren't used here any more. Everything has to be sold in Metric but we still buy milk and beer in pints - which is of course labelled as 0.xx litres.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Varn (Post 192292)
I still get a laugh out of NASA sticking a valuable weather satellite into Mars because the ground computers used Pounds and the spacecraft used Newtons in calculating thrust.

Kind of like the Spinal Tap joke were they mix up the ' and " symbols for feet and inches (they are opposite in the UK compared to the US - so I am 5'9" for example).

I'm happy with the kilokilo tank though - this is a small hatch, smaller than a VW Golf with an official tank size of 49 litres, which is about 11 UK gallons. 50 mpg would get me 550 miles, so I'm shooting for an extra 80-100 miles...:thumbup:

euromodder 09-04-2010 07:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Varn (Post 192292)
My minivan (26g) and my Econoline (35g) have the potential to do 600 highway miles on a tank. Neither of which are really that economical except when you consider their specific mileage.

Try it with a tank volume around 13 US gallon ;)
(Less for really small cars, or a bit more for bigger ones that'd still be called small in the US.)

I'd get 1000 miles out of a 26 gallon tank without even trying, and over 2000 km / 1240 miles while hypermiling.

NeilBlanchard 09-04-2010 01:24 PM

How about 1,478 miles on 12.4 gallons of diesel?

From Canada To Mexico On One Tank of Diesel

Big Dave 09-04-2010 04:08 PM

I routinely get more than 630 miles per tank, but that requires over 23 gallons.

630 miles > 1,000 kilometers.

Arragonis 09-04-2010 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NeilBlanchard (Post 192407)
How about 1,478 miles on 12.4 gallons of diesel?

From Canada To Mexico On One Tank of Diesel

If I had a Fabia Greenline (and some sponsorship) I would seriously give it a go. Alternately I think Vekke's Cordoba could probably manage it, and carry some freight at the same time :D

comptiger5000 09-04-2010 06:12 PM

Heck, at 20mpg, I'd suck my 23 gal tank bone dry in a bit over 450 miles.

alvaro84 09-04-2010 07:14 PM

...and I couldn't ever go close to a K, my longest tank was 556.6km (345.9mi).
But this is a 15l (a bit less than 4 gallons) tank.

Piwoslaw 09-06-2010 10:46 AM

Since we're starting to split hairs, maybe we should define the mile we are talking about:
1 statute mile = 1,609.344 metres
1 survey mile = 1,609.3472 meters
1 nautical mile = 1,852 metres

Thankfully, in the metric system 1 meter = 1 metre ;)

So I propose a nauti-kilo (nauti tank?) goal of 1850km between the 1000mi (1600km) kilotank and the 2000km bi-kilokilo. Groar, you almost licked it!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Varn (Post 192292)
I know this next comment is OT:
I am ignorant of why you talk of imperial mpg, I had thought that england went to the metric system. Perhaps it is a bit like peru where they use the metric system for everything except fuel where they use the US Gallon. Or here in the USA where most medical is metric and the civilian population uses english measurement except of course for volume among others.

If cars were fueled by ale, then British gas pumps would measure in pints...
But that's a long story. In the US, you buy milk in gallons and soda in liters. Automotive tire sizes are the same world-round, ie tread width in mm but hub diameter in inches. But mountain bike tires are in inches only (2.1x26) while road bike tires are in metric (700x25). Go figure.

Quote:

Originally Posted by groar (Post 192168)
Now some people have 45L (11.8 USgal) tanks, while others (as I do :o) have 60L (15.9 USgal)...

And that's why some of us can do 1000km without trying, while others will struggle just to get to the next gas station.
I once talked to the owner of a car like mine, only he had the 2.0 diesel instead of my 1.6 diesel. When I told him I once got over 1650km on a tank, he replied that he's done almost 1500km once or twice. This was hard to believe, as he has no aeromods and isn't into hypermiling. Then I found out he has a 70 liter tank, which is 20% larger than mine (58l). With 70 liters I could scratch 2000km.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arragonis (Post 192172)
I only use the measurements of her majesty.

I wonder what's the average mpg(imperial, of course) of Her Majesty's car fleet?

robchalmers 09-06-2010 11:03 AM

I probably could trouble the kilokilo but that would mean straying into the red on the gauge, and all the surging and palpatations that go with it!!!

My tank is 45 litres, so roughly 12USgal.... as I said diddy. I'm quite proud I'm dragging 530-540 miles out of it regularly - I know there is another gallon and a half in there I just don't have the stones... Running a diesel on fumes is russian roulette, especial if you starve it!

Arragonis 09-06-2010 11:31 AM

Allegedly Her Maj has converted some of her cars to LPG to save money...

320touring 09-06-2010 12:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by robchalmers (Post 192694)
I probably could trouble the kilokilo but that would mean straying into the red on the gauge, and all the surging and palpatations that go with it!!!

My tank is 45 litres, so roughly 12USgal.... as I said diddy. I'm quite proud I'm dragging 530-540 miles out of it regularly - I know there is another gallon and a half in there I just don't have the stones... Running a diesel on fumes is russian roulette, especial if you starve it!

you have no turbo and no high pressure common rail:-) go for it!

although as long as the light comes on consistently you'll not really feel whats left in the tank.,

What was the final figure arragonis?

Arragonis 09-06-2010 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 320touring (Post 192711)
What was the final figure arragonis?

Unfortunately I had to fill up on Sunday at only 550 miles due to being on the road for the second half of this week and having no chance to go near my normal garage.

Doh.

320touring 09-06-2010 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arragonis (Post 192716)
Unfortunately I had to fill up on Sunday at only 550 miles due to being on the road for the second half of this week and having no chance to go near my normal garage.

Doh.

ah bum!

still, could be a decent indicator i suppose!

how many gal for the 550? Please let it be less than 10:-)

Arragonis 09-06-2010 03:36 PM

Sadly it was just over at about 10.3 - need to do the sums later - but I am being far more aggressive in my venting now that the temps have come down a little.


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