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Xist 10-29-2020 03:59 PM

What is the most fuel-efficient pickup?
 
I asked Google and it listed brand-new behemoths that get worse economy than my Accord. It looks like the most efficient truck ever is a Volkswagen as old as I am and selling for $9,000.

What is the ROI on 45 MPG?

It looks like the second-best is the 1996-1998 Toyota [Hilux] truck, which is rated 20/27 or something.

It was available earlier, but I want OBD-II.

I believe at that point Toyota replaced it with something bigger and stronger.

At this point I am just curious. It had seemed like I only needed a truck twice a year, so getting 30+ MPG in my Honda and renting something every six months seemed like the obvious choice, but I rented a truck a few weeks ago for ramp materials, a van on Monday to buy a partially-assembled loft bed, and now I am waiting to get rid of some stuff at the dump.

I doubt that replacing a car with a truck makes sense, but I was curious.

redneck 10-29-2020 04:34 PM

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cRiPpLe_rOoStEr 10-29-2020 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Xist (Post 635005)
It looks like the most efficient truck ever is a Volkswagen as old as I am

This?
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-voZxho0vs...2Bcabinada.jpg
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-WhKABkGr7...2Btraseira.jpg

Or maybe this?
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-3WowK9ihE.../Photo4129.jpg


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It looks like the second-best is the 1996-1998 Toyota [Hilux] truck, which is rated 20/27 or something.
Gasser or Diesel?

oil pan 4 10-29-2020 09:14 PM

I would say a car and trailer.

freebeard 10-30-2020 12:34 AM

Within the constraint of the title question:

I TURNED MY TESLA INTO A PICKUP TRUCK

Xist 10-30-2020 01:07 AM

Yes, the E-Camino. I shared that before.

Let's compromise. Simón should have built a flatbed to pull behind her stock Modelll, but who would have watched that?

The trailer might be less convenient, but how much steer manure can you haul in her abomination?

Buying a truck to use monthly may not make much sense, but I am unsure that I want to find space for a 4x8 trailer on top of two vehicles.

freebeard 10-30-2020 01:50 AM

Abomination? I thought you liked it. :confused:

https://st.automobilemag.com/uploads...truck-hero.jpg
https://st.automobilemag.com/uploads...truck-hero.jpg

https://ecomodder.com/forum/member-f...no-resized.jpg

https://ecomodder.com/forum/member-f...1396056961.jpg

Any of those could get ~45mpg. Here's what my Westfalia trailer is like (not this one). It stores on it's tail end.

https://ecomodder.com/forum/member-f...9-p1010027.jpg

Still don't have a car with a trailer hitch. :( The last one, the Squareback, is four vehicles back.

Xist 10-30-2020 09:11 PM

"Install a hitch, rent a trailer"--Scott at Linden Mini Storage
 
I was younger and more interested in expensive hobbies.

cRiPpLe_rOoStEr 11-01-2020 01:17 AM

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Originally Posted by freebeard (Post 635065)

At least in Spain there were Isetta-based mini trucks, yet they had a wider rear track just like the BMW Isetta 600.

jakobnev 11-01-2020 07:29 AM

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...-flakmoped.jpg

ME_Andy 11-01-2020 08:35 AM

I guess it would be a diesel Colorado at 28/30 mpg ($28k). That's actually not a bad price, IMO.

Soon it will be a Workhorse Endurance ($50k) or a Rivian ($60k).

Xist 11-01-2020 09:27 AM

Ebay would charge $171.75 for a towing package, but that doesn't show tax and it shows $0 for shipping, but maybe that would update if I gave it an address.

How much weight would that add? :)

So, would it make more sense to rent a trailer or offer my neighbor $20 to borrow his? :)

Stubby79 11-01-2020 11:33 AM

A TDI swapped Rampage...maybe.

cRiPpLe_rOoStEr 11-03-2020 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by jakobnev (Post 635288)

Peugeot used to make similar vehicles

samwichse 11-03-2020 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by jakobnev (Post 635288)

This is cool! Check out the specs, too. Pretty decent:

Transportel <www.transportel.se> elmopeder, elodrive & eldrivna fordon

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Motor Powerful high efficiency permanent magnet motor with four carbon brushes to ensure a long service life. Power 1,5 kW. Max power 3,5 kW / 1 min.
Speed control Electronic, continuously variable forward and backward. Max output 200A. Choose between hand or foot controls. All other controls are placed at the handles.
Security Safety switches in footrest and charger inlet.
Charger Built-in full automatic 230 / 24 V, 20A with maintenance charging.
Charging time 12 hours after 80% discharge.
Battery High quality tubular plate type. Capacity 175 Ah / 5h, or 110 Ah / 5h.
Transmission Duplex chain to rear wheel.
Brakes Disc brakes on all three wheels. Foot brake with two independent hydraulic systems. Automatic parking brake on rear wheel.
Tyres Front 4.00 x 8 – 6.P.R.
Pressure 3 bars.
Rear 4.00 x 12 – 6.P.R.
Pressure 4 bars.
Suspension Rubber shock absorbers on front sub-frame. Adjustable saddle rod with spring suspension.
Speed 20 or 25 km / h.
Driving distance 30 - 80 km / day, depending on driving conditions and battery capacity.
Dimensions L = 2580 mm, B = 1000 mm, H = 1060 mm.
Load capacity L = 1200 mm, B = 1000 mm.
Weight 295 kg.
Max load 270 kg.

JSH 11-06-2020 10:29 AM

For a homemade modern version of the Caddy Smyth Kit Cars

My 2003 Jetta Wagon TDI returned 50 mpg plus on the highway and averaged 46 mpg over 10 years.

https://www.automobilemag.com/upload.../VW-Ute-31.jpg

cRiPpLe_rOoStEr 11-06-2020 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by JSH (Post 635761)
My 2003 Jetta Wagon TDI returned 50 mpg plus on the highway and averaged 46 mpg over 10 years.

Makes me wonder how that powertrain would fare in a current-generation Saveiro

JRMichler 11-07-2020 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Xist (Post 635005)
It had seemed like I only needed a truck twice a year, so getting 30+ MPG in my Honda and renting something every six months seemed like the obvious choice

I see five trucks on the fleet list that are currently getting over 30 MPG: https://ecomodder.com/forum/bestgasmileage.php. My truck is looking good right now, but mileage normally drops to 31-32 MPG in the winter: https://ecomodder.com/forum/showthre...yon-17070.html.

Xist 01-27-2021 03:03 PM

So, you are saying that I need a wagon, or maybe a hatchback? Maybe just a trailer hitch?

rmay635703 01-27-2021 04:16 PM

The Subaru 360 (Sambar) pickup of certain years is said to top 50mpg

The car version driven at 52mph delivered 66mpg

My example could top over 80mpg with p&g

Xist 01-27-2021 09:35 PM

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Guys here have mentioned the 360 many times, but I never really looked into it. I don't even think that I had ever seen a picture of it!
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Subaru introduces the 360 as an inexpensive yet distinctive economy car: "Cheap and Ugly." Powered by a two-stroke engine, the Subaru 360 claims 66.3 mpg and sells for $1,297. It was $300 cheaper than the similar-looking Volkswagen Beetle and was 1,000 pounds lighter.
https://ecomodder.com/forum/attachme...1&d=1611797773
https://www.subaru.com/company/50years/cars#subaru-360

Subaru sold 392,000 between 1958 and 1971
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Consumer Reports was influential in 1968, too, which is why the magazine's devastating review of the tiny Subaru 360 was so damaging. It took the tiny car a full 37.5 seconds to go from zero to 50 miles an hour. Sixty miles an hour on flat ground wasn't really possible with the car's 25 horsepower two-cylinder engine. That was probably a good thing. The front bumpers were "virtually useless against anything more formidable than a watermelon," the magazine said. Handling was dangerously bad. During abrupt maneuvers, the back wheels tended to curl up under the car like a turtle's leg.
Driving the Subaru 360, one of the worst cars ever sold in America
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Sales of the 360 collapsed. The man whose idea it had been to import the cars, Malcolm Bricklin, left the company. He would try again, about 20 years later, with a Yugoslav car...
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The Subaru 360 weighed 965 pounds.
The Archie weighs 1,300 pounds.

He claims that he maxed out at 45 MPH and the brakes didn't really brake.

Consumer Reports remarked the suicide doors pulled open in the wind during testing, recorded a 0-60 time of about 37 seconds, and reported 25–35 mpg. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subaru_360.

I cannot find any for sale, just this collection of 360s and Sambars in Florida.

Bricklin created Subaru of America and imported the 360, which bombed. He created his own car, which bombed. After Fiat left the U.S. he imported two of their sports cars, which were actually successful, until Fiat ended his contract. Then he imported the Yugo, which, as we know, was wildly successful, which is why there are more Yugos on the road than any other vehicle.

Wait, no, it bombed.

rmay635703 01-27-2021 10:13 PM

I own a 360 sedan, never noted them as expensive or rare but maybe that’s changed

In terms of speed if your float and carb work, the fuel lines aren’t plugged, the motor isn’t worn, your brakes are honed, the timing is correct, fuel is e free, tires are inflated to 40psi and it’s a 4 speed
My car would top 75mph and still pull, 3 speeds were touch beyond 55mph since you were near redline, dragging brakes, wrong tires, messed up carb really effects the top end

If you are interested join the Subaru 360 group

Xist 01-27-2021 10:34 PM

An Insight sounds like a less-expensive hobby. :)

The sedan is a two-door?

cRiPpLe_rOoStEr 01-27-2021 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Xist (Post 641722)
The sedan is a two-door?

For me it's easier to consider a 2-door car as a sedan than a so-called 4-door coupé

mattrod 02-02-2021 01:31 AM

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Originally Posted by ME_Andy (Post 635289)
I guess it would be a diesel Colorado at 28/30 mpg ($28k). That's actually not a bad price, IMO.

Soon it will be a Workhorse Endurance ($50k) or a Rivian ($60k).

My Colorado has an average of 26.5 mpg which I think not bad also because I did some modifications such as lift kit, aftermarket black rhino truck wheels and bigger tires.

rmay635703 02-02-2021 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by cRiPpLe_rOoStEr (Post 641734)
For me it's easier to consider a 2-door car as a sedan than a so-called 4-door coupé

Subaru 360...
Wagon, Sedan, Truck - 2 door
Van - 5 door - 3 row - seats 6

freebeard 02-02-2021 02:22 PM

https://ecomodder.com/forum/member-f...1396056961.jpg

duckduckgo.com/?q=plattenwagwen
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/archives...ttenwagen1.jpg
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/archives...ttenwagen1.jpg

Piotrsko 02-04-2021 10:01 AM

Been thinking about this for a while, but the most fuel efficient pickup is the one you dont own or never drive. Right now the F250 is using absolutely no fuel sitting in my driveway moving crosswind at about 1000 mph while the world turns.

Vman455 02-04-2021 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Xist (Post 635005)
It looks like the second-best is the 1996-1998 Toyota [Hilux] truck, which is rated 20/27 or something.

Note that the Hilux was discontinued in the US in 1995, replaced by the Tacoma that year. It continues in the rest of the world, but the fifth generation was the last you could get here. The Tacoma went 1995-2004, 2005-2015, and is now in its third generation 2016- .

I've been reading about these trucks the past couple days since I'll be flying out to Washington this summer to rehab my grandfather's 1991 Hilux and drive it back to Illinois. Then, I plan to use throttle-stop testing to measure drag changes from an airdam at various heights, tailgate spoiler, bed cover, rear wheel air dams, etc. It's a 4WD 22R-E 5-speed, originally rated 17/20. I think the highest-mpg Hilux sold here was 22 mpg highway (5-speed RWD).

mpg_numbers_guy 02-05-2021 09:19 AM

2wd, 4cyl, manual tacoma, probably?

cRiPpLe_rOoStEr 02-07-2021 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by rmay635703 (Post 641977)
Subaru 360...
Wagon, Sedan, Truck - 2 door
Van - 5 door - 3 row - seats 6

Another thing that sounds quite strange to me is when the rear hatch is counted as a door. Unless it was a barn-door, and large enough to allow someone to access the vehicle from it, counting a hatchback as a doors doesn't make any sense. And we might agree the hatch of a rear-engined microvan is too small for anyone other than a toddler to attempt entering through it.


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