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Old 03-18-2015, 12:30 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Engine/transmission swap mount "drawings" (have any)?

This thread idea starts with this unanswered question in the awesome "Prius to mk1" thread:
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...wondering if anyone has ever made drawings of the various XMSN mounting patterns from various ECO cars, I have often figured it would be worthwhile to encourage more swappers
Anyone have useful drawings or diagrams that would help plan engine and transmission swaps? ... maybe for the widely-available Prius drive trains into other commonly available and older, lighter chassis from the 1990s (or other periods)?

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Not really what you are looking for, but I have put a ton of small diesel drive trains from 80's-ish cars into Classic american/Japanese/European cars and my method has alway been
1. Put new drivetrain in loose
2. Support at appropriate hight
3. Cut holes in body to clear new drivetrain if necissary
4. Bolt new engine and trans mounts to new engine/trans
5. Use C.A.D. Cardboard aided design to fab up adapters to mount new engine mounts to old donor body.
6. Make hybrid driveshaft/s from engine driveshaft and body driveshaft. (If you are not a machinist have a driveshaft shop do this for you, the tolerances are pretty tight)

Unless you are an electronics wizard I would recommend that you start with a less electronic swap. That being said, I have learned a ton by just starting a project I was very interested in, even though I did not have the skills, and just dealing with the problems as they arose.
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I like it. Good advice.
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No offense but imagine the amount of time saved re-inventing the wheel if even simple photos of pencil outlines to paper were made when folks remove xmsns from engines

Could be a good thing to have a repository of here on eco modder.

I could start, the 700r4 bell and mounting is identical to the far superior NV3500 5mt (as is the 4t60)
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Honda Fit 2007-2008 engine/trans mount/bracket locations

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... imagine the amount of time saved re-inventing the wheel if even simple photos of pencil outlines to paper were made when folks remove xmsns from engines

Could be a good thing to have a repository of here on eco modder.

I could start, the 700r4 bell and mounting is identical to the far superior NV3500 5mt (as is the 4t60)
Absolutely! And this can be a collection of more than just Prius engine stuff, but the data re: lots of cars tha such swaps might be made into. The kind of ECO car chassis we can get cheaply, good mules for a engine/trans swap.

That was part of the point of this thread. Could you edit your post just to be more specific about the makes and model? The codes are a little arcane for some of us without familiarity (yet). Thx!

As my part, a bit different from yours in that it is about mounting an engine/tranny combo into the engine bay, here is a diagram. There is a lot of crap data/photos out there for Fit engine bays and what good data there is is for the speed-performance tuners, not us:

Engine/trans mount locations for the 2007-2008 Fit 5MT with key (all from honda.com):



1. rubber assy., transmission mounting (mt)
2. rubber, rr. engine insulator (mt)
3. rubber assy., engine side mounting (mt)
4. bracket, transmission mounting
5. bracket, rr. engine mounting (mt)
6. stopper, fr. engine
7. bracket, l. fr. stopper (mt)
8. bolt, l. fr. stopper
9. bolt, flange (10x38)
10. bolt, flange (10x50)
11. bolt, flange (10x138)
12. bolt, flange (10x20)
13. bolt, flange (12x100)
14. bolt, flange (10x30)
15. bolt, flange (10x25)
16. bolt, flange (10x45)
17. bolt, flange (10x53)
18. bolt, flange (10x35)
19. nut, flange (10mm)
20. nut, flange (12mm)
21. bolt, stud (10x70)
22. washer, fr. stopper

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