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Cd 04-11-2015 04:03 PM

Whats your honest reaction to this seat belt commercial ?
 
What is your honest reaction to this seat belt commercial ? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-8PBx7isoM

I'm an old man and yet I had tears in my eye ( yes - curiously only one eye :confused: )
after watching this video.
I showed it to two female acquaintances of mine, as well as my sister. They all thought it was touching, but not anything that moved them like it did me.
In fact, one of the ladies commented that she thought it was boring.

Am I an emotionally weak person, and if so, how is that a bad thing ?

redpoint5 04-11-2015 04:32 PM

I find it to be emotionally moving; almost to a tear. It's well done.

People all react differently to different things. A single scenario such as this cannot define your emotional intelligence. Having empathy is a good thing, and is lacking in many people, especially towards strangers.

I would define an emotionally weak person not as someone who has strong emotions, but one who acts based on those emotions without tempering action with reason.

Cd 04-11-2015 04:53 PM

Oh good. I feel more like a man now.
I guess i should go kill something now to make sure i'm a 'real' man.

I found it interesting that the tears were uncontrollable. It just happened.
BTW I'm not familiar with " emotional intelligence " . I had never heard of that.

Xist 04-11-2015 05:15 PM

It resulted in me doing push-ups.
Don't watch commercials at drill, troops!

MobilOne 04-11-2015 11:21 PM

I found it offensive.

Cd 04-12-2015 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by MobilOne (Post 475065)
I found it offensive.


Offesnsive ? :confused:

Are you trollin' ?

BTW, I am an extremely 'cold', selfish person. When a close relative of mine ( a child ) was dying in the hospital, I showed no emotion at all, yet tear up at this commercial.

I had it explained to me once that this was a coping mechanism, and it wasn't that i didn't care. When things get too tough to handle, i shut it all off.

To me, that certainly points to an emotional weakness.

One of the women i showed the video to, whom showed no emotion was my ( ex ? ) girlfriend.
She surprised me by laughing at me giving some coins to a homeless man. We had a discussion about it and she admitted that even if this man was indeed homeless and hungry, she did not care.

I've always held the belief that empathy was an ingrained human trait that we are all born with. Studies show that even rats show empathy amongst one another. Do you think that we are all indeed born with the same amount of empathy, and that we lose or gain it based on how we are affected by changes in our lives ?

pgfpro 04-12-2015 02:47 PM

I found it extremely touching.:thumbup:

mikeyjd 04-12-2015 06:25 PM

Very well done

deejaaa 04-12-2015 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by pgfpro (Post 475142)
I found it extremely touching.:thumbup:

X2.
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Originally Posted by Cd (Post 475141)
........I've always held the belief that empathy was an ingrained human trait that we are all born with. ..........Do you think that we are all indeed born with the same amount of empathy, and that we lose or gain it based on how we are affected by changes in our lives ?

i think it could be possible. ever since i started in my line of work, i find myself to be much colder towards humans. or it could be from age. who knows.

Cd 04-24-2015 05:29 AM

Is empathy a learned emotion ?
If not taught that violence is wrong, i wonder what our true nature would be.
I think back to how cruel that children can be to one another, and especially to animals, such as cats. One fellow i work with killed a cat by placing it in a microwave.
The other day, a random lady at my other (unpaid intern) job whipped into the parking lot and didn't see a light post. She smashed right into it, and badly crushed the front end of her SUV.
My co-workers were just a few feet from her as it happened.
Rather than rushing to see if this woman was alright, they all began to laugh out loud at the woman. She hear everything, and was extremely perturbed.
I'd like to say that I just work with a bunch of jerks, but more and more, I have encountered this lack of compassion for others.
My sister saw a bird in the road once that was flapping around with what she thought was a broken wing. As she she got closer, she could see that someone had cut the birds wings and left it bleeding there.
As she tried to help this bird, she looked up to see that a man was videoing here.
He quickly drove off, and she came to the realization that he was the one that had done this.
I was thinking of why it is that empathy is looked down upon in society, as a feminine trait.
Perhaps it is because in order to survive and thrive as a male ages ago, you couldn't have empathy.
It was survival of the fittest, with brother killing brother.
Manliness is defined as being violent.

redpoint5 04-24-2015 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Cd (Post 475141)
She surprised me by laughing at me giving some coins to a homeless man. We had a discussion about it and she admitted that even if this man was indeed homeless and hungry, she did not care.

I've always held the belief that empathy was an ingrained human trait that we are all born with. Studies show that even rats show empathy amongst one another. Do you think that we are all indeed born with the same amount of empathy, and that we lose or gain it based on how we are affected by changes in our lives ?

We certainly are not born with empathy. Babies are born with zero empathy, and have no ability to think from another perspective. They gradually develop the ability to think from other perspectives and to empathize. Some of the development of empathy is learned, and some of it is hardwired in genetics. After all, somewhere around 3% of men and 1% of women are psychopaths (lacking normal empathy or concern for others).

Empathy didn't fully develop in me until I was about 19 years old. The thing is, most people have to be able to provide for their own needs before they can be concerned with the needs of others. It's my opinion that life is a process of gaining empathy for others and expanding our sphere of concern. As children, we are motivated by wanting to avoid punishment and achieve rewards. If we develop, our motivation gradually changes towards wanting to do good for others; otherwise we remain as psychopathic children.

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Originally Posted by Cd (Post 476763)
Is empathy a learned emotion ?
If not taught that violence is wrong, i wonder what our true nature would be.
I think back to how cruel that children can be to one another, and especially to animals, such as cats. One fellow i work with killed a cat by placing it in a microwave.
The other day, a random lady at my other (unpaid intern) job whipped into the parking lot and didn't see a light post. She smashed right into it, and badly crushed the front end of her SUV.
My co-workers were just a few feet from her as it happened.
Rather than rushing to see if this woman was alright, they all began to laugh out loud at the woman. She hear everything, and was extremely perturbed.
I'd like to say that I just work with a bunch of jerks, but more and more, I have encountered this lack of compassion for others.
My sister saw a bird in the road once that was flapping around with what she thought was a broken wing. As she she got closer, she could see that someone had cut the birds wings and left it bleeding there.
As she tried to help this bird, she looked up to see that a man was videoing here.
He quickly drove off, and she came to the realization that he was the one that had done this.
I was thinking of why it is that empathy is looked down upon in society, as a feminine trait.
Perhaps it is because in order to survive and thrive as a male ages ago, you couldn't have empathy.
It was survival of the fittest, with brother killing brother.
Manliness is defined as being violent.

Empathy for ones own "tribe" is ingrained in our genes, and lack of empathy for other tribes is just as ingrained. Sporting events are merely simulated battles, and we come together as a tribe to cheer on our team, and delight in the misery suffered by the opposing team (tribe).

Empathy is both influenced by genetics and developed by learning, and our empathy extends as far as our ability to consider others as part of our "tribe". If we take a world view that all people are related to us, then we might have compassion for people in other countries. If we see animals as occupying the same kingdom as us, then we have compassion for them.

P-hack 04-24-2015 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Cd (Post 475031)
What is your honest reaction to this seat belt commercial ?

I'm an old man and yet I had tears in my eye.

Just my $0.02, and my own bias/experience/overthinking. I think there is more going on there, and it is kind of "fantasy". This man has a daughter and wife who empathize with him and care for him. He isn't a "disposable" man. Your lady friends probably don't get it, and would likely deny that is it to the end.

Or something like that.

redpoint5 04-25-2015 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by P-hack (Post 476845)
Your lady friends probably don't get it, and would likely deny that is it to the end.

She could be among the 1% of women that are psychopaths. If it were me, I'd stop seeing the girl so that I could free up my mental, emotional, and financial resources to being with the girl of my dreams.

Vman455 04-25-2015 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Cd (Post 475141)
I've always held the belief that empathy was an ingrained human trait that we are all born with. Studies show that even rats show empathy amongst one another. Do you think that we are all indeed born with the same amount of empathy, and that we lose or gain it based on how we are affected by changes in our lives?

Infant and toddler studies seem to indicate that we are born being able to empathize. As early as the late 90s researchers had discovered that infants cry when they hear other infants crying, and cry louder than they do when disturbed by other loud sounds. However, it isn't until we are several years old that we can feel empathy intellectually.

As far as the commercial, it sounds like you and others here had the reaction desired by the producers of it. It is, after all, specifically designed to provoke an emotional response, from the characters in it and their relatability to the style of music, imagery, and setting.

Cd 04-25-2015 02:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Vman455 (Post 476884)
It is, after all, specifically designed to provoke an emotional response,

Sorry - nerd alert - your comment made me immediately think of this line in Blade Runner :p
( skip to 2:14 in the video )


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CY91A7SEfSo

Cd 04-25-2015 03:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by redpoint5 (Post 476882)
She could be among the 1% of women that are psychopaths. If it were me, I'd stop seeing the girl so that I could free up my mental, emotional, and financial resources to being with the girl of my dreams.

My 'girlfriend' had an abusive childhood, and this no doubt had an effect on her emotionally. We went to the C.N.E. in Toronto when i went to see her, and we went on a roller coaster. I was puzzled to see that even this did not make her happy.
She smiled when i looked at her, but she wasn't screaming and giggling like the others around us. Later as i was lying beside her about to get ready to depart, i looked into her eyes and saw a tear.
This was very touching, as I thought she was crying because she loved me and didn't want me to leave.
I said " What's wrong sweetie ? Why are you crying ?, to which she replied " I have to go to work tomorrow .
I painted a portrait of her, made a necklace, a ring, and even made a small castle for her.
All gifts were like " oh that's nice...( changes subject )

I don't know if i mentioned this on this forum, but one of the coldest things i recall from her is the reaction I got from her one day when I sent her a large vase of flowers. I live in Austin, Texas, and she lived in Winnipeg at the time.
I sent her the flowers early that day, with no texts or calls from her. Later that evening I called, thinking that the flowers were not delivered.
I asked her how her day went, and talked with her for a few minutes with no change in the tone of her voice over the course of the conversation.
I then asked her if anything special came for her that day, to which she responded that " Yes, you sent me flowers" :(

She is extremely emotional when it comes to other things, such as anger. She chased down a fellow that cut her off and tried to confront him. She hit a parked police car in the process.

Perhaps having too much empathy has caused me to stick with her. I'm still stuck in the belief that I can somehow 'fix' her with enough love, but it hasn't done anything but drain me.

Funny you should mention the financial bit.
Knowing that no woman wants a man that is poor, I cashed in my company stock and with that money, invested in a stock that has since been rated as one of the best stocks of that year.
My problem i that the stock fell before it skyrocketed. With this being my first experience doing stocks, i was scared into selling when the stocks dropped.
If I had held, I would have made over $180,000 - and still growing to this day.

My company stock had never gone past $ 30 a share in the decade i was with the company. Wouldn't you know it, but the stock more than doubled after i pulled out.
I had over a thousand shares.

So i lost thousands of my money from the sale of the stock, hundreds of thousands had i held, and the continued loss of the shares from the company.

I now fret over the cost of light bulbs, and haven't had a haircut in months to save money. Yeah !

Women are expensive, eh ? :thumbup:

P-hack 04-25-2015 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by redpoint5 (Post 476882)
She could be among the 1%

You must not live in the US :) Otherwise sound advice.

deejaaa 04-25-2015 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Cd (Post 476893)
My 'girlfriend' had an abusive childhood, ...........
I now fret over the cost of light bulbs, and haven't had a haircut in months to save money. Yeah !

Women are expensive, eh ? :thumbup:

your situation is sad in my eyes, because I've had similar relationships, been there. I was told I have a codependent personality. those relationships didn't last very long. my wife and I are hitting our 10th anniversary in Dec so there is still hope.
I listened to a podcast this morn on the way to work. it brought out emotions in me because of my relationship with my son from another marriage, been there.
the commercial was targeted to the male obviously and it touched me. many times have I driven without my belt, so, been there.
I wear it now so it touched me.
I've cut my own hair now for over 18 years. the 3 sets of clippers I've gone through have paid for themselves many times over.

mikeyjd 04-25-2015 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by deejaaa (Post 476922)
I've cut my own hair now for over 18 years. the 3 sets of clippers I've gone through have paid for themselves many times over.

I've paid for 3 haircuts in the last 15 years. I would try it once a year for 3 years in a row, having to fix it each time. After that I have never been tempted to have my hair cut, and consider it a complete waste of time and money.

BabyDiesel 04-26-2015 12:23 AM

In 2 days, the anniversary of a friend's death will arrive once again. This will make 5 years since that tragic day, quite possibly one of the Top 3 worse days of my life. There is a chance that Jesse, my friend, could have walked away if he would have been wearing his seatbelt.

But alas, things were not so. When his truck started to roll in the freshly tilled tobacco field, he was ejected. His trucks then rolled over on top of him. He didn't die on the spot, but it left him basically brain dead, totally reliant on a vent for the rest of his life. Rather than see their son as a vegetable for the next 5, 10, 20, 30, 50+ years, they decided to pull the plug.

I was supposed to have meet up with him that morning at the local country store, well before the time of the accident. I blamed myself for years, that if I had just went to get that Mountain Dew, that he would be alive. That was a hard thing to forgive myself of, and it took several years. On top of that, I felt as if I had to remain strong for my other friends at high school. They needed the consolidation, and I could provide. Prideful of me to squash my own feelings, and it resulted in me breaking down in auto-mechanics the next day, laying on the floor bawling for over 45 minutes. It took 2/3 of a can of Grizzly dip to get me halfway calmed down.

I'm not sure why exactly I wrote all this. This is just what has flowed out from my fingers and onto the keyboard, for all to see. I guess subconsciously I hope that this story will persuade someone, if only one, to buckle up before hitting the road. I know I do.

Thank you Cd for posting this. And no, your man card is not revoked for tearing up :)

redpoint5 04-26-2015 02:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Cd (Post 476893)
My 'girlfriend' had an abusive childhood, and this no doubt had an effect on her emotionally...

Perhaps having too much empathy has caused me to stick with her. I'm still stuck in the belief that I can somehow 'fix' her with enough love, but it hasn't done anything but drain me.

Having empathy is always a good thing. We are all products of genetics and our environment, so in a way we don't really have a choice in how we turn out. Sure, we have the freedom to make any decision we are presented with, but biology and past experiences are going to inform us on how to react. Realizing that people have no say in their genetics or their early development allows us to have compassion for the most unlovable people.

I don't want to discourage you from showing kindness towards this person, but it sounds like she has put up a hard defensive wall as a survival mechanism from the abuse she received. It's likely going to take both counseling, and her own desire to to achieve mental wellness for any progress to be made.

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I painted a portrait of her, made a necklace, a ring, and even made a small castle for her.
All gifts were like " oh that's nice...( changes subject )
I find some truth to the book, The Five Love Languages. It attempts to simplify the complex subject of love in a relationship. The basic premise is that different people give and receive love in different ways. It may be that your gal doesn't feel most appreciated by gifts.

You can often tell in what way people like to receive love by observing what they do to show it for others.

While the 5 love languages may be over-simplified, it's a good start:

Physical touch
Words of affirmation
Quality time
Acts of service
Gifts

A successful relationship is more likely when both people share similar values on the various types of love.

Tragically, it seems most people don't consider this when they are "in love" and looking to have a long-term relationship. Just because someone is attractive and fun to be with doesn't mean you can live with them or sustain a long-term relationship.

I don't want to get too preachy, especially since I don't know the details of your circumstances, but you should seek a relationship that builds you up, not one that drains you. You sound like a considerate person, and I think everyone around you benefits when you are doing well.

There is a chance you can help this girl, but in the mean time you are being drained and depriving yourself and all of your other relationships of the "bandwidth" you would otherwise have.

Quote:

Funny you should mention the financial bit.
Knowing that no woman wants a man that is poor, I cashed in my company stock and with that money, invested in a stock that has since been rated as one of the best stocks of that year...

So i lost thousands of my money from the sale of the stock, hundreds of thousands had i held, and the continued loss of the shares from the company.

I now fret over the cost of light bulbs, and haven't had a haircut in months to save money. Yeah !

Women are expensive, eh ? :thumbup:
Just curious, was anyone providing financial advice for the decisions you made?

My haircuts have come from various girlfriends over the past decade, and my sister during the long periods of time I was single. Women are expensive, but they should at least save you the cost of a haircut!

The stock market has always scared me (and I'm very comfortable with risk) because it's rigged against the layperson. The best we can reasonably hope for is to achieve the average of the entire market; meanwhile the broker is getting a guaranteed commission regardless of performance. The only people making huge profits are those with insider information (often illegal), and those with computers making micro-second transactions ahead of previously placed orders.

As a general rule, you want to do the opposite of what everyone else is doing. When everyone is buying the most expensive home they can('t) afford in 2005, you should be selling. When the price of fuel plummets and everyone runs out to buy an SUV; purchase the efficient vehicle.

deejaaa 04-26-2015 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by redpoint5 (Post 476990)
........I find some truth to the book, The Five Love Languages. It attempts to simplify the complex subject of love in a relationship. The basic premise is that different people give and receive love in different ways. It may be that your gal doesn't feel most appreciated by gifts.

You can often tell in what way people like to receive love by observing what they do to show it for others.

While the 5 love languages may be over-simplified, it's a good start:

Physical touch
Words of affirmation
Quality time
Acts of service
Gifts

A successful relationship is more likely when both people share similar values on the various types of love.
.....

nice words and well put.


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