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PR03 04-15-2012 11:54 PM

Where are we at with the CR-Z?
 
Hi guys, I was just curious if anyone else has a CR-Z and what type of progress has been made on the IMA system?

How similar is the CR-Z electronics to the 2nd gen Insight?

Looking to hear any positive news.

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euromodder 04-17-2012 07:06 AM

There 's only 3 of them in the Garage:

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SecondWind 05-04-2012 08:12 PM

Hi! I just registered on this forum, although I've poked around in it some... I own a 2011 CRZ EX 6MT, and I want to reply to PR03. I hope everyone understands that the Z is fundamentally a small 2-seater that is a blast to drive! Corners like a go-cart, stops on a dime, easy to park. Its highway milage comes from 1.5 litre fuel-sipping engine (I easily get over 50 mpg highway; 42 overall) that sounds good, and revs easily. City mileage comes from the assist of the 13 HP electric motor. At this time, due to the nature of the car, most owners at CRZforum.com are more interested in appearance/engine mods. I would buy the car even if it were not a hybrid, because of its reasonable price, and the enjoyment of driving it.

bluetwo 09-05-2012 04:40 PM

I have to agree with SecondWind... I love the car to death and it certainly doesn't hurt that it's a blast to drive and good to look at.

Economically, it doesn't measure up to the 2nd gen Insight. Honda never meant for that because the Insight is now absolutely Honda's flagship fuel sipper and it doesn't want anything getting into its sales. That's not hard to get but it'll still be fun to try and eek some more MPG out of it.

It still seems like there are a lot more people that are into the sporty side of the car than are into the eco side of it. It's not fast with 120 HP and 2600 lbs. but in Sport mode you can have a lot of fun. I've gotten used to driving in Eco so when I put it in Sport things seems a lot quicker. You can really hear the difference the intake makes in Sport mode too!! :-)

PR03 09-09-2012 01:43 PM

Hey guys I ended up buying a CRZ On Aug 4th 2012.

I Highly recommend it to everyone!

The CR-Z is really Two cars in one package.
The when in sport mode from a dead stop it can out accelerate much more expensive true sports cars!

It jumps off the line by at least 2 full car lengths before the other cars even start moving! ( due to the extra 60ft/lbs torque of the IMA and the light weight of the car).

It really is a blast to drive in the city. and then once I get out on the hiway to commute back to acreage. I enter the Eco mode and get around 5.1L per km at 109km/h.

The best I have seen to date is 4.6l per 100km behind a semi truck.

In the future I and to tweak the or swap the motor controller for something similar to what HPD did with mission motors.
They made a system that could dump all of the juice from the battery in one shot. Similar to an KEERS system used in F1.


google this:
missionevt-hybrid-components-appear-in-high-performance-honda-crz


Plus the look of the CR-Z is like nothing else on the road.

Allch Chcar 06-13-2013 09:24 PM

If Fuelly is any indicator, Fuelly CRZ, Honda understated the MPG. The new Yaris and Fiesta average 35/36MPG so the CRZ is significantly more efficient albeit without rear seats.

I love that body style, but I want something in between the BRZ and the CRZ. :/

PR03 06-14-2013 11:12 AM

CR-Z comes with Rear seats in every other country except North America.

All the brackets are there and people have imported the seats.

I know this is an Eco tuning forum, but the CR-Z has a huge aftermarket following and guys are really getting some good hp out the motor when equipped with a supercharger. The car will still return very respectable mpg too when driven nicely.

The car is super quick off the line, I love racing people in mine. In town in sport mode from a dead stop I out powered a new V8 Camaro.

Allch Chcar 06-14-2013 12:19 PM

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I see that Hondata released a Flashpro for the CRZ but I have yet to see the rear seats in a NA CRZ. Not that there is much leg or head room.
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I'm still looking through the CRZforum to see what is going on over there.

UFO 06-14-2013 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by PR03 (Post 376352)
CR-Z comes with Rear seats in every other country except North America.

All the brackets are there and people have imported the seats.

I know this is an Eco tuning forum, but the CR-Z has a huge aftermarket following and guys are really getting some good hp out the motor when equipped with a supercharger. The car will still return very respectable mpg too when driven nicely.

The car is super quick off the line, I love racing people in mine. In town in sport mode from a dead stop I out powered a new V8 Camaro.

I know this is an eco forum where most of us are not up on vehicle performance, but I highly doubt this is the case. The new Camaros have 300+ horsepower. Are you sure he was racing you?

UltArc 06-14-2013 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by UFO (Post 376363)
I know this is an eco forum where most of us are not up on vehicle performance, but I highly doubt this is the case. The new Camaros have 300+ horsepower. Are you sure he was racing you?

The V6 Camaro has 32x hp...the V8 is 4xx...I don't think he was racing. Sometimes Hondas rev their engine and try to race me. It only takes one rev back, since either tire of mine has more hp than their entire engine at crank.

I do love the CR-Z. Everytime I stop by a Honda dealership, they NEVER have a standard- it's always that other thing. I hope one day I can get a used one and really have some fun with it, it seems like a blast.

Look forward to following further CR-Z info! I hope Honda doesn't nip it out like the Element.

eufo 06-19-2013 12:56 AM

Hey guys, I just happened upon this forum and decided to jump in! I have a 2013 CR-Z 6MT and used to own a 2011 CR-Z CVT. I'm beating EPA, but I'd like to really take my efficiency to the next level and I'm hoping this site will help guide me. :)

eufo 06-19-2013 05:26 PM

After doing a little reading, looks like one of the easiest things I can do is up my tire pressure.

The manufacturer recommended pressure is a mere 30psi and the max sidewall is 51psi. It's always hot in Florida, but I'm assuming if I fill the tires to 40psi before driving the car for the day, that should be ok, right?

UFO 06-19-2013 06:06 PM

You will get most of the benefit at 40psi and be well within the tire rating. If you can tolerate the extra firmness, you could easily push the pressure to 46psi.

Xist 06-19-2013 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by UltArc (Post 376370)
The V6 Camaro has 32x hp...the V8 is 4xx...I don't think he was racing. Sometimes Hondas rev their engine and try to race me. It only takes one rev back, since either tire of mine has more hp than their entire engine at crank.

One time I found myself next to a red Corvette with my red Prelude. I beat the other car off the line and across the intersection, but I maintained the speed limit, while the other car flew past me.

I never revved the engine in that car, except when I happened to be next to a good friend on a scooter.

I once had a coworker with a Civic Si who that she could beat Mustangs and Camaros. She also said that if someone stole her car, she would run it down.

"In your bus? This Civic Si that you say beats Mustangs and Camaros, you are going to run down in a school bus?"

We now return you to your thread, already in progress.

PressEnter[] 06-19-2013 07:29 PM

I like the CR-Z a lot. I was checking out some threads on the CR-Z forum where people are getting over 50 mpg for fuel economy. I was seriously considering getting one, but I decided I really did need a back seat.

And for the record, I often "beat" faster cars off the line...because I pay attention to the lights instead of my phone :p

UltArc 06-19-2013 07:55 PM

I so covet the CR-Z. I run my tires at 52 psi, max of 40.

Is there really no backseat or is it just very small? Every time I get near one, I see it's not a standard and walk away :(

PressEnter[] 06-19-2013 08:05 PM

There's no back seat in the American version, but there is one for some markets.

Xist 06-19-2013 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by PressEnter[] (Post 377050)
There's no back seat in the American version, but there is one for some markets.

Is there an aftermarket yet? Can you swap in something?

eufo 06-19-2013 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by UltArc (Post 377049)
I so covet the CR-Z. I run my tires at 52 psi, max of 40.

Is there really no backseat or is it just very small? Every time I get near one, I see it's not a standard and walk away :(

Standards are very rare. I had to have mine shipped in from another dealer since they had none on the lot.

There is definitely no back seat, but it LOOKS like a crappy back seat. It has storage areas instead. I have heard of people swapping in back seats imported from other markets. I don't see the point, however, because there is nowhere to put your legs or head. LOL

eufo 06-21-2013 05:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UFO (Post 377035)
You will get most of the benefit at 40psi and be well within the tire rating. If you can tolerate the extra firmness, you could easily push the pressure to 46psi.

I upped all corners to 40psi. I find the ride to be a little more firm, but not unbearable.

My drive home from work I got 47.6mpg the night before changing the pressure. After upping the pressure my ride home from work was 51.5mpg. My ride home is late at night with virtually no traffic so it is pretty much the same every single night. I might have hit a few more green lights than usual, so I'm not drawing any conclusions yet, but it looks good. :)

Allch Chcar 06-23-2013 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Xist (Post 377052)
Is there an aftermarket yet? Can you swap in something?

Not really, you'll have to find someone to export the backseat for you like this guy. There is some work involved Another thing is they're not for tall people. For women and children it might work. But it's not a sedan so don't expect to carry 4 grown adults. I don't know what the gross weight limit is on these either.

Honda CR-Z is pretty much a car for two only - YouTube

Quote:

Originally Posted by eufo (Post 377056)
Standards are very rare. I had to have mine shipped in from another dealer since they had none on the lot.

There is definitely no back seat, but it LOOKS like a crappy back seat. It has storage areas instead. I have heard of people swapping in back seats imported from other markets. I don't see the point, however, because there is nowhere to put your legs or head. LOL

There's a 70:30 ratio of CVT:6spd from what I read. It's better than the more pedestrian sedans but nowhere near a sports car. The FRS/BRZ have a near 30:70 ratio of automatics to manual.

eufo 06-24-2013 02:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Allch Chcar (Post 377562)
There's a 70:30 ratio of CVT:6spd from what I read. It's better than the more pedestrian sedans but nowhere near a sports car. The FRS/BRZ have a near 30:70 ratio of automatics to manual.

Yeah, I read that ratio too, but my real world experience has been... *counts in head*

12 total CR-Zs on 3 Honda lots... 1 6MT... that's more like a 92:8 ratio, but it's a small sample size since Honda dealers carry so few of them.

Allch Chcar 06-24-2013 03:59 AM

I'm just repeating what I read in a Honda corp press release. Even a cars.com search came up with a 85:15 CVT to MT. Although that says nothing of the cars that already sold.

eufo 06-25-2013 02:42 AM

Yeah, I'd imagine that the 70:30 ratio is probably accurate, but doesn't reflect current supply because there appears to be heavier demand for the 6MT.

Incidentally, the last 3 nights driving home ended up being 52.0, 52.0, and 54.9 mpg... so I feel fairly confident that upping my tire pressure from 30psi to 40psi has had a significant increase in mpg! :)

Xist 06-25-2013 12:30 PM

I loved my Prelude, but it was an '87, with a nine-second 0-60

Quote:

Originally Posted by Allch Chcar (Post 377562)
Not really, you'll have to find someone to export the backseat for you like this guy. There is some work involved Another thing is they're not for tall people. For women and children it might work. But it's not a sedan so don't expect to carry 4 grown adults. I don't know what the gross weight limit is on these either.

My Prelude was the only car where I pulled the seat all of the way and actually needed to bring it forward, but I once had a five year-old in my back seat who mentioned that he did not have anywhere to put his feet.

A small child did not have enough legroom!

Yet I once transported two girls and two guys taller than me--6'6" and 6'7"! The taller guy was actually in the back, with his legs between the front seats, over my parking break.

We bottomed out...

For some reason that only happened once.


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