Go Back   EcoModder Forum > Off-Topic > The Lounge
Register Now
 Register Now
 


Reply  Post New Thread
 
Submit Tools LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 01-09-2008, 01:05 PM   #1 (permalink)
Awesomeness personified
 
AndrewJ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Columbia, MO
Posts: 642

Harold - '94 Honda Civic CX
90 day: 54.51 mpg (US)

Margot - '08 Surly Big Dummy
Thanks: 0
Thanked 28 Times in 18 Posts
Send a message via AIM to AndrewJ
They're gonna start this war after all...

First the President complains of the Iranian nuclear program.

Now that that's thoroughly debunked he's apparently moved on to a more tried-and-true path to war.

[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/v/eNL6DyH_IfA[/YOUTUBE]

And now this tidbit from Stephen Hadley, Bush's national security adviser:

"This was a very provocative act by the Iranians and ... came very close to resulting in an altercation between our forces and their forces,"
"They've got to be very careful about this because if it happens again they are going to bear the consequences,"

worse yet are the many "news" articles portraying this as some kind of legitimate confrontation.
In particular, Time magazine has this to say of the incident, "On Sunday, five armed naval units from Iran's Revolutionary Guards aggressively challenged three U.S. Navy ships passing into the Gulf through the Strait of Hormuz."

"Armed naval units"?! I guess they meant those 5 ski boats.
"Aggressively challenged"?! I don't have any idea what that's supposed to mean.

I know, I know, USS Cole right? Little inflatable dinghy laden with explosives kills 17 injures 39. But those are are lone terrorists we're talking about, Iran is a sovereign country. We've tolerated massively more confrontational encounters with the USSR without this level of national "freak out."

I've been saying for the last few years that this administration will provoke a war with Iran, and I truly hope that I'm wrong about that. But every time I think that they don't have the political capital or credibility to do it, they come up with another way to make it happen.

__________________
"I got 350 heads on a 305 engine. I get 10 miles to the gallon. I ain't got no good intentions." - The Drive By Truckers.

  Reply With Quote
Alt Today
Popular topics

Other popular topics in this forum...

   
Old 01-09-2008, 01:47 PM   #2 (permalink)
Awesomeness personified
 
AndrewJ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Columbia, MO
Posts: 642

Harold - '94 Honda Civic CX
90 day: 54.51 mpg (US)

Margot - '08 Surly Big Dummy
Thanks: 0
Thanked 28 Times in 18 Posts
Send a message via AIM to AndrewJ
So far the only good thing to come out of this situation is this lovely piece of satire from the Wonkette.
__________________
"I got 350 heads on a 305 engine. I get 10 miles to the gallon. I ain't got no good intentions." - The Drive By Truckers.

  Reply With Quote
Old 01-09-2008, 06:15 PM   #3 (permalink)
Pokémoderator
 
cfg83's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Southern California
Posts: 5,864

1999 Saturn SW2 - '99 Saturn SW2 Wagon
Team Saturn
90 day: 40.49 mpg (US)
Thanks: 439
Thanked 530 Times in 356 Posts
AndrewJ -

Yeah, I was thinking "Gulf of Tonkin" all the way when I heard about this on the radio. If Iraq had gone as (un)planned instead of becoming a quagmire, then I think we would be in Iran today.

Remember the Maine!!!!!

CarloSW2
__________________

What's your EPA MPG? Go Here and find out!
American Solar Energy Society
  Reply With Quote
Old 01-09-2008, 06:23 PM   #4 (permalink)
Dartmouth 2010
 
SVOboy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Hanover, NH
Posts: 6,447

Vegan Powa! - '91 Honda CRX DX
Team Honda
90 day: 66.52 mpg (US)
Thanks: 92
Thanked 122 Times in 90 Posts
Send a message via AIM to SVOboy Send a message via MSN to SVOboy Send a message via Yahoo to SVOboy
Remember the maine, , is that a real or a butch cassidy and the sundance kid reference?

I spose it'll be time for me to start attending the peace rallies again,
  Reply With Quote
Old 01-10-2008, 02:05 AM   #5 (permalink)
MechE
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Bay Area
Posts: 1,151

The Miata - '01 Mazda MX-5 Miata
Thanks: 0
Thanked 21 Times in 18 Posts
So there's other reports out there that this happens all the time (weekly) - and has been happening for a long time....

That aside... Given the rhetoric in the executive branch... It sounds like we're waiting for the "excuse" trigger. Great... And the sad part is - I'll bet most American's think they're Arab (not like the media is going to help there)...

Sigh....
__________________
Cars have not created a new problem. They merely made more urgent the necessity to solve existing ones.
  Reply With Quote
Old 01-10-2008, 02:41 AM   #6 (permalink)
Pokémoderator
 
cfg83's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Southern California
Posts: 5,864

1999 Saturn SW2 - '99 Saturn SW2 Wagon
Team Saturn
90 day: 40.49 mpg (US)
Thanks: 439
Thanked 530 Times in 356 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by SVOboy View Post
Remember the maine, , is that a real or a butch cassidy and the sundance kid reference?

I spose it'll be time for me to start attending the peace rallies again,
I'm not sure if you know what I mean (darn Internet lack of intonation!!!!!), so I'll expand like a Click image for larger version

Name:	puffer_fish.jpg
Views:	23
Size:	4.1 KB
ID:	157 fish :

USS Maine (ACR-1)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Maine_(ACR-1)
Quote:
The sinking of the Maine on February 15, 1898 precipitated the Spanish-American War and also popularized the phrase Remember the Maine! In subsequent years, the sinking of the Maine has been an area of great speculation. The cause of the explosion that sank the ship is still a mystery that remains unsolved to this day.
Hrmmmmm, maybe we should follow the train of events and see what happens on February 15th, 2008.

CarloSW2

__________________

What's your EPA MPG? Go Here and find out!
American Solar Energy Society
  Reply With Quote
Reply  Post New Thread


Thread Tools


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
DIY: Push Button Start SVOboy DIY / How-to 20 07-10-2014 09:43 AM
Winter cold start & idling warm-up experiment MetroMPG Hypermiling / EcoDriver's Ed 17 12-17-2010 03:39 PM
How much fuel does it take to re-start a warm engine? MetroMPG Hypermiling / EcoDriver's Ed 9 08-15-2009 02:31 PM
[CRXMPG FAQ] DIY Push Button Start SVOboy Off-Topic Tech 0 12-06-2007 02:33 AM
DIY decel fuel cutoff; alternator regulation; auto start/stop MetroMPG EcoModding Central 0 11-29-2007 02:04 PM



Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.5.2
All content copyright EcoModder.com