Who fell 'asleep?'

[jamesqf]

Originally Posted by Hersbird

The computer won't be able to tell a deer from a cow say, or even some mailboxes for that matter. So those other things won't jump out in front of you, but the others are more common.

Why do you think cows don't jump out in front of you? I can assure you, they do. Maybe not with quite the same alacrity as deer, but often & quickly enough to be a hazard - and if one cow goes, the whole herd often follows. Then there are the ones that like to congregate on the roads at night. Real fun when they're Black Angus :-) But that just goes to what I wrote earlier about an Autopilot system programmed/trained by urbanites, let loose in the rest of the world.

Same thing with mailboxes: a lot of the places I drive, deer are way more common than mailboxes. Like the road to my friends' place: Post Office puts all the mailboxes down by the main highway (~5 miles from the turnoff from the minor road to their dirt road), but deer are all over the place.

Originally Posted by Hersbird

When I first heard this story I thought the rental car must have had a bad GPS, but it looks like even old skool maps can lead you astray.

Sure, but there's a whole 'nother level of misplaced confidence in the GPS tech. With a map (or just treating GPS like a map), most people might stop and consider road conditions before pushing on up a rough dirt road (I wouldn't even take a 2WD car on it in summer) through a steep, narrow, snow-filled canyon. But when the GPS says it's a road... Anyway, it never (or only rarely) seemed to happen with this particular road before cars started having GPS. Now it's apparently common, despite the big "don't believe your GPS" warning signs posted at the bottom.

[Hersbird]

Originally Posted by slowmover

The question — as always — what are the consequences of walking?

That’s the one question calculated to get me to slow.

Spacing is everything, and speed a close second.

(Tesla drivers killing or maiming themselves is funny. Should’ve taken The Grey Dog.)

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In the news story I posted that was the hardest part to fathom, the mom and son walking further up the road. If they would have walked the way they came, worst case maybe 4 hours back to the interstate. Depending on weather 4 hours even in good clothes can be deadly. Most every time, anywhere, they always find the car pretty quickly and the passengers are gone. There was another time in Montana where after a week of looking they finally found a missing car that had gone off the road. The occupant was still in the car but they don't know if it was the crash or the Grizzly that finished the poor lady off. Personally I would rather die by Grizzly than car crash. I came a split second from that happening once, it was a much better experience than the 100+ times I have come a split second away from dying in a car crash. In the car you just end up pissed off at fellow humanity, in the woods you feel alive and grateful to be a part of it.

[Vman455]

I'd much rather the car crash. I'd rather die knowing it was because of an indifferent universe than an actively hostile fellow organism.

[wdb]

Did Tesla come out with an autonomous grizzly?

[redpoint5]

Originally Posted by Hersbird

Personally I would rather die by Grizzly than car crash.

I would rather walk out of there wearing a new grizzly coat.

[Fat Charlie]

Originally Posted by slowmover

The question — as always — what are the consequences of walking?

That’s the one question calculated to get me to slow.

Spacing is everything, and speed a close second.

(Tesla drivers killing or maiming themselves is funny. Should’ve taken The Grey Dog.)

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Yep. Driving closer to the car ahead does nothing to change the fact that your speed is limited by that car's speed. Getting closer may mean you're going faster for 30 seconds- but overall it doesn't change your speed, only risk.

[Hersbird]

Originally Posted by redpoint5

I would rather walk out of there wearing a new grizzly coat.

Way off topic the off topic discussion, but that movie about Hugh Glass, the Revenant, could have been so much better. First it happened in late summer, early fall. Had it been winter in that area just one dip in the river and a squirrel could have feasted on Hugh's legs. But the rest of the story was actually much better in real life. That's what ticks me off about 1/2 these Hollywood "based on real events" movies. Most of the time the real story is better than anything Hollywood could dream up. My favorite is Henry Plummer and the gang called the Innocents in Bannack Montana. I can't believe that hasn't been made into a major motion picture but based on what I just said I'm almost glad.

[Fat Charlie]

I don't like defending Hollywood, but try tightening a great real life story into 90 minutes of screen time that will draw high schoolers inside to buy overpriced popcorn.

You're going to cut a lot out, change a lot more and combine some other things- and that's just in the script, before the director brings his vision, the stars begin interpreting the characters and the studio repackages it because comedies are doing better at the moment.

The bar is set so low that I try not to complain about movies: I'm just impressed when some of them actually turn out to be good.

[RedDevil]

Maybe Tesla can't help it...

[gone-ot]

Love his (Scott Adams) cartoons!