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BetsyBio 01-24-2008 06:25 PM

Who need's spark When you can Pulse
 
I came acrossed these Pulse Plugs today and I was wondering If any one had heard of them before ?

http://www.pulstarplug.com/index.html

They seem to work buy storing the heat energy normally wasted in the ignition components of a normal spark plug, and using it to increase the spark from 50 watts peek power to 1 million watts peek power saving gas mileage, increasing horsepower and torque.

http://www.pulstarplug.com/howtheywork.html

They cost 24.95 a plug so they are a little steep but on the website they say they will pay for themselves within a year in savings at the pump and thats for a six cylinder at 20 mpg.

http://www.pulstarplug.com/fueleconomy.html


So do you guys out think they are worth the cost ?

AndrewJ 01-24-2008 06:28 PM

http://forum.ecomodder.com/showthread.php?t=767

BetsyBio 01-24-2008 06:39 PM

Thanks andrew I can wait to see the results

plym49 01-25-2008 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BetsyBio (Post 6798)
I came acrossed these Pulse Plugs today and I was wondering If any one had heard of them before ?

http://www.pulstarplug.com/index.html

They seem to work buy storing the heat energy normally wasted in the ignition components of a normal spark plug, and using it to increase the spark from 50 watts peek power to 1 million watts peek power saving gas mileage, increasing horsepower and torque.

http://www.pulstarplug.com/howtheywork.html

They cost 24.95 a plug so they are a little steep but on the website they say they will pay for themselves within a year in savings at the pump and thats for a six cylinder at 20 mpg.

http://www.pulstarplug.com/fueleconomy.html


So do you guys out think they are worth the cost ?

Wow I think this is a bunch of hooey.

First of all, if these plugs would do anything good, they would be OEM as the manufacturers are highly motivated to grab any low-hanging fruit. The mods we do on this list - they are basically extreme, not suitable for everyday use by everyone. But rank-and-file changes that can improve mileage on any car for anyone - not bloody likely.

Secondly, that is gibberish about 'storing heat energy normally wasted'. What the heck does that mean?? If these plugs could convert waste heat to energy (in this case, electricity) then I would strap them to my exhaust pipes!!!! See paragraph above.

Lastly, I am not sure that a hotter spark translates to more power or more economy. Once a spark is hot enough (and yes, there are variables that determine how much you need for a certain engine under certain conditions) I don't know that 'more' helps any. My own experience using a Jacobs super-high-energy ignition would seem to bear this out. Since my engine did not really need a hotter spark, I did not really cause anything to change (other than burning out caps and rotors).

At US $24.95 a plug, this is a holdup without a gun. Sounds like a marketing gimmick, like those magnets that you place on your fuel line to turn your gasoline into rocket fuel. As if.

DifferentPointofView 01-26-2008 01:58 PM

There's also a plug called the "Halo" plug. Anyone know anything about them? From what I've heard, they're more believable. But still very skeptical all the same.

BetsyBio 01-28-2008 08:50 PM

Yeah sounded Like a bunch of hooey to me also...I will have to see what happens with SVO boy on the other thread to make my desicion since he has nothing to gain from it but fuel mileage

I ahve never heard of the Halo plug but its probably a similar technology.

Gone4 01-28-2008 09:23 PM

You can use heat in a circuit that is designed to take advantage of the Seeback effect - one of the two (or three, depending on who you ask) thermoelectric effects. It's the only suitable method for capturing heat and turning it into electricity in such a small device. It's terribly inefficient and I can't see it actually reaching the claimed power levels.

Also one of their little flash videos shows a normal spark plug as not going off at the right time... that seems to be completely trash since you just adjust the timing from top dead center to achieve the best ignition place, regardless of spark lag, and all modern cars do this with a computer as you drive.

cfg83 01-28-2008 09:32 PM

BetsyBio -

Quote:

Originally Posted by BetsyBio (Post 7306)
Yeah sounded Like a bunch of hooey to me also...I will have to see what happens with SVO boy on the other thread to make my desicion since he has nothing to gain from it but fuel mileage

I ahve never heard of the Halo plug but its probably a similar technology.

Oh yeah, the Halo ... here it is :

http://www.lsgbrisk.com/products/faq.aspx
Quote:

How does the Halo Spark Plug work?

The Halo features a patented “Halo Ring” ground electrode, with cutting-edge 360° Firing Technology that delivers superior burn characteristics for improved combustion and optimum use of available fuel energy. Unlike standard spark plugs that generate a spark at basically the same location each time, the Halo generates rotating sparks that fire in a 360° pattern around the circular electrode. This advanced firing system has several advantages including: quicker initiation of the combustion process, reduced fouling and misfires, and reduced electrode wear for a longer performance life. In addition, the open ring design of the ground electrode plays a major role in helping to improve combustion efficiency. Since the flame kernel is not blocked by the ground electrode as in other spark plugs, it can travel freely through the ring into the combustion chamber, igniting the air/fuel mixture up to 30% faster than conventional plugs. This results in a more complete combustion and less wasted fuel coming out of the tailpipe.

On the website I input my car, and it was $8 per plug. At least this is less than the Pulse Plug or a Denso Iridium plug.

From what I remember, the Halo plug is not being sold by the original manufacturer. LSG Brisk is a new distributor.

CarloSW2

BetsyBio 01-29-2008 12:09 PM

Sounds Like the halo plug is not the same because its just makes more of circular spark as opposed to the Pulse plugs witch are the same as a normal plug but use some form of a capacitor internally to amplify the waste energy to make a more powerful spark. But at 8 dollars a plug they sound a little more reasonable than the pulse plug I might have to give them a shot thanks for the info


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