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pgfpro 09-22-2009 02:16 AM

working on my aero mods
 
Heres a idea I have for a Kamm back.

Let me know what you think. I'm not a aero guy so I need help.

http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r...raeromod-1.jpg

Piwoslaw 09-22-2009 02:31 AM

Wow, that is going to be a nice piece of work. I would love to see the change in Cd when you get that done :) Just make sure you get the top and side angles right. Maybe an adjustable mock-up first for tuft testing?

TOOSTUBBORN2FAIL 09-22-2009 08:37 AM

that does look good, i think i would be confident in that design to build a cheap version, and check it, although that looks like flow should be attached.

maybe cardboard, and then a more final version

Cd 09-22-2009 05:58 PM

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3518/...b489da14_o.jpg

Not that you would .... ;)

pgfpro 09-22-2009 07:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cd (Post 129158)

WOW This is just what i needed!!!

I'm going to think about this.

Thanks Man!!!:thumbup:

Cd 09-22-2009 11:26 PM

Glad you like it.
( I would done a better job if I knew you would have liked it.)

I was just looking at a Del-Sol a few weeks ago, and this came to mind.
I passed on buying it because of the poor mileage figures ( 32 MPG highway )
I see that you have doubled that. ( Now I am kicking myself )

I would suggest buying a plastic model of your car if you are actually considering anything like this.
Trying to get angles to work right can be a huge pain, and doing it in a small scale can save many hours of grief when you go full scale. Besides, wouldn't you like to have a model of your car too ?
( I would act quickly though, since the models of my car ( a '93 civic hatch ) have all been discontinued )

Cd 09-22-2009 11:36 PM

I did a search for a plastic model of your car. Several are already discontinued.

pgfpro 09-22-2009 11:46 PM

Thanks again for all your help.

The model idea is awesome!!! Hopefully I can find one.

I really want to do the boat tail on this car. I come from a auto body back ground so far as building the panels and what not it won't be to hard.
But like you said getting the angles right (for aero)and making it look good is the kicker.

Cd 09-23-2009 12:39 AM

The nice thing about this car is that it would really easy ( um ..easier ) to do a full boat tail on this car since it is so short. It would add only a couple http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2580/...bdc6076e_o.jpgof feet to the back.
You could even use your stock lights, but you would have to move them down and closer together.
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2468/...600a52e5_o.jpg

You can find a model if you look hard enough. I saw one just recently. I'll go there tomorrow to see if it is still there. ( Although this was almost a year ago )

Cd 09-23-2009 01:05 AM

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2674/...f5522efd_o.jpg

( I forgot - your car is blue. )

Here is a kit that might still be available : CR-X Del Sol (Model Car) Fujimi Tohge Series|No.31

Christ 09-23-2009 01:20 AM

Make that a 3 wheeler in 2 forward config, tighten the rear boat tail down to a thinner taper.

Voila - you've spent more money than you can recover reasonably.

The idea doesnt' look bad though, for a boat tailed Honda. Throw in a VX swap, and you're golden.

Cd 09-23-2009 09:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Christ (Post 129238)
Make that a 3 wheeler in 2 forward config, tighten the rear boat tail down to a thinner taper.

Voila - you've spent more money than you can recover reasonably.

The idea doesnt' look bad though, for a boat tailed Honda. Throw in a VX swap, and you're golden.

The taper of the boattail in the illustrated plan view above follows the tear drop template angle that is posted elsewhere on this site. To taper the car anymore than what is shown would be a HUGE undertaking. You would have to section the entire car. You would run into problems with everything from motor mounts to the fit of the dash.
Then you would have the real hard part to solve - the rear wheel.

I must admit it does make me think of a 3 wheeler.

pgfpro - do you have a VX engine in the car now ? ( I notice you are getting over 60 MPG )

Cd 09-23-2009 09:26 AM

http://www.autoworldofconway.com/ima...u9_108621a.jpg

Rather than go with a custom Lexan back window, you could use the hatch from a Mazda MX-3.
You would have to do some cutting and welding, but it would not only be professional looking, but it would be functional as a hatch and could be replaced if broken ( more easily than a custom windshield. )

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...r_20080820.jpg

pgfpro 09-23-2009 10:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cd (Post 129266)
pgfpro - do you have a VX engine in the car now ? ( I notice you are getting over 60 MPG )

Nope, I'm running a turbocharged 1.6L D16 Z6 with a Z6 head that's modified with my own prechamber that I built. I have been working on this design for ten years now.

My car does great at 55mph to 58mph. It will get a little over 70mpg at these speeds. But anything over 60mph the FE drops off drastically. This where aero is going to help a ton. Then it will be a complete package.;)

pgfpro 09-23-2009 10:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cd (Post 129271)
http://www.autoworldofconway.com/ima...u9_108621a.jpg

Rather than go with a custom Lexan back window, you could use the hatch from a Mazda MX-3.
You would have to do some cutting and welding, but it would not only be professional looking, but it would be functional as a hatch and could be replaced if broken ( more easily than a custom windshield. )

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...r_20080820.jpg

I shopping for one as we write.LOL


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