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freebeard 06-22-2023 01:48 AM

WTF is an Ecomodder?
 
I've never done a poll but I wanted to see how it's done.

The question is plucked at random from the Zeitgeist. Seriously.

redpoint5 06-22-2023 01:52 AM

I don't see a poll.

I'm embarrassed to say how long into the internet age it took me to realize WTF wasn't just a silly way to say FTW (For The Win). It was probably 2005 or thereabouts.

freebeard 06-22-2023 01:54 AM

Try refreshing, it works at this time in this location in this browser. :confused:

redpoint5 06-22-2023 01:56 AM

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Originally Posted by freebeard (Post 685438)
Try refreshing, it works at this time in this location in this browser. :confused:

Yep, now I see it.

Woo, I'm with the 100% majority so far! Consensus is everything! All those voting against the consensus shall be cast out into the darkness; shunned by all. The Science has spoken.

... I was tempted to start a poll with various answers listed, but the correct answer being "underwater basket weaving".

freebeard 06-22-2023 02:28 AM

You can make these things time out. I didn't exercise that option.

I'll come back and see how it's going, then I will select three options. To see how this works.

redpoint5 06-22-2023 02:37 AM

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Originally Posted by freebeard (Post 685442)
You can make these things time out. I didn't exercise that option.

I'll come back and see how it's going, then I will select three options. To see how this works.

What we really need is some sort of Ministry of Truth, to tell us what all the right answers are, and then to violently oppose all the wrong answers. It saves time and effort while creating consensus; all great things!

freebeard 06-22-2023 02:53 PM

I ticked [Other see comment].

Ecomodder gives me a refuge away from actual social media like Facebook and Reddit.

cRiPpLe_rOoStEr 06-23-2023 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by freebeard (Post 685455)
Ecomodder gives me a refuge away from actual social media like Facebook and Reddit.

And to talk about "unorthodox" car-related stuff without being looked as if we were a bunch of freaks, isn't it? :D

JSH 06-25-2023 12:03 AM

For me it started out as a way to save money through modification to make a car more fuel efficient. Not modern cars are so efficient from factories that there aren't many modes that make economic sense.

Today it is more a place to talk about efficiency tech than to actually find ways to mod cars.

EDIT: Looking at the poll results people are voting more than once. I guess that makes up for the poor poll choices. Ecomodding is all of the above and more.

freebeard 06-25-2023 11:59 AM

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Not modern cars are so efficient from factories that there aren't many modes that make economic sense.
I started off wanting a Messerschmittt KR-200; today it's the Arcimoto FUV. Both tandem two-seaters but as alike as night and day.

Edit:
I excercised all the options, except a time limit. You can also see who voted for what.

oil pan 4 06-27-2023 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by cRiPpLe_rOoStEr (Post 685460)
And to talk about "unorthodox" car-related stuff without being looked as if we were a bunch of freaks, isn't it? :D

The only time people on car forums don't freak out when someone mentions fuel economy is when gas prices are at or near an all time high.
Why not make that part of the plan instead of trying to work it in after the fact.

freebeard 06-27-2023 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by sgtlethargic
You bring a lot of social media refuse to Ecomodder.

Maybe in the sense that I invoke a lot of refutation. It is a word, I checked. How can I 'bring' anything?

I laughed when people deserted MySpace for Fecesbook. I've been tempted by Twitter but haven't done more than lurk. Like the nine out of ten here.

You realize, of course, I made the poll so you could vote for environmentalism.

redpoint5 06-27-2023 01:39 PM

Things I disagree with are refuse. Things I agree with are The Science.

oil pan 4 06-27-2023 02:50 PM

Oh and to rag on failed electric vehicle start ups and the failings of "renewable energy".

redpoint5 06-27-2023 02:54 PM

LOL, well for some folks.

I'd like to see "free" and "clean" renewable energy become the cheapest and least damaging source of electricity. My desire for that to become a reality does not mean I am now permitted to deny reality.

Same goes for EVs. I've been excited for them the last 2 decades. My enthusiasm doesn't justify dismissing their shortcomings.

Discussing the pros and cons of any technology certainly falls within the overall themes of an economic and ecology forum.

oil pan 4 06-27-2023 03:28 PM

I drive a leaf. I make it work.

The closest thing to clean energy on earth that we can build more of in most places now is nuclear. It uses the least amount of resources, uses the least land and emits the least CO2.
Hydroelectric is great, but in the US we have run out of good places to build big hydro projects.

freebeard 06-27-2023 03:35 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by redpoint5
... ecology forum.

What animal habitat forum would that be?
Galloping goalposts!

But it's certainly not Ecomodder. Environmentalism only got two votes, one more than 'don't know, don't care' at one each. Even sgtlethargic didn't give it a vote.

To the point, generating energy and feeding it to unsophisticated consumers is the road to ruination.

For instance, thermal solar [is greater than] solar electric for resistance heating.

Just ditching axial flux and radial flux for transverse flux in motor/generators would help.

freebeard 06-27-2023 03:45 PM

Another example: It is now possible to 3D print glass filters and couplers directly onto the ends of glass fibers.

Researcher 3D prints world's smallest wineglass with new method

https://scx1.b-cdn.net/csz/news/800a...d-prints-w.jpg
The world’s smallest 3D-printed wineglass (left) and an optical resonator for fiber optic telecommunications

Researchers develop an extreme environment-resistant nanopaper
https://scx1.b-cdn.net/csz/news/800a...s-an-extre.jpg
Fabrication of the BC/S-Mica nanopaper. Credit: Sun et al.

Materials science is fun!

Edit:
Listening to Anastai is fun too.
New DeepMind’s AI Made a Breakthrough in Computer Science!
Plus you learn about Sorting and Hashing.

redpoint5 06-27-2023 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by sgtlethargic (Post 685584)
No, animal habitats not being discussed here was one of several of his disingenuous replies to this being an environmental website, although it specifically says 'ecological' in the 'about us' section.

You correctly identified the easter egg in my comment, and then incorrectly referenced my previous comment regarding economy as disingenuous. I was being completely serious when I said that I don't recall the environments of any species being discussed here, or how they impact other environments, which is the definition of ecology.

You're going full circle now, because if we're to discuss environment, we must discuss it in context of which life inhabit that particular environment. Rising CO2 is a benefit to the entire Kingdom known as plants. That's good news considering most all biomass are plants.

"The sum of all biomass on Earth is 550 gigatons of carbon, 450 of which is contained in plants."

cRiPpLe_rOoStEr 07-01-2023 02:42 AM

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Originally Posted by redpoint5 (Post 685571)
I'd like to see "free" and "clean" renewable energy become the cheapest and least damaging source of electricity. My desire for that to become a reality does not mean I am now permitted to deny reality.

Same goes for EVs. I've been excited for them the last 2 decades. My enthusiasm doesn't justify dismissing their shortcomings.

Unfortunately many EV fanboys are so blindfolded by their nearly-religious beliefs that EVs are some sort of "salvation", they get really mad whenever someone mentions any shortcoming of EVs.


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