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Old 11-11-2016, 05:10 PM   #41 (permalink)
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Sure, you can see a bunch of stoners sitting around throwing numbers around, but maybe there's a chance that the numbers are based in reality.
Which odds just went up with the additional states coming in out of the cold.

Without touching on the politics of it, wasn't Ruth Ginzburg going to move to New Zealand?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...tion-websites/

I doubt she could be a Supreme from there.

Anyways — as an anarchist, I favor reducing government coercion and unfettering direct action of the populace. Fossil fuels won't stand against Shawyer's Em-drive.

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Old 12-12-2016, 03:14 PM   #42 (permalink)
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Lets just hope they remove the ethanol mandate.
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Lets just hope they remove the ethanol mandate.
Or better yet disband the fake Reagan eera oil marketplace, forcing the producer to sell directly to the supply base.

Add a supply tax to oil product imports

Then eliminate all oil subsidies
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They can tell you where your wine comes from down to the hectare; but petroleum goes into a global pool. I think it's to hide their shenanigans.

With electric power you can buy from only green sources.
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Old 12-13-2016, 04:40 PM   #45 (permalink)
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Remove Ethanol mandate and bring supply back up so that we have $ .99/gallon gas!!!
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Old 12-13-2016, 05:10 PM   #46 (permalink)
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Mandate E100 and do away with petrol subsidies.
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A harmonization between American and European emission regulations seems more likely, allowing Ford, GM and Fiat/Chrysler to increase their Diesel offerings in the USDM. Regarding safety, I wouldn't be so optimistic about any amendment that could lead to an increase in the overall efficiency of commercial fleets, but who knows? Many small business owners would probably want one of those Asian forward-control compact trucks such as the Hyundai Porter, known in my home country as Hyundai HR, if they were also available there. Or what about a Toyota HiAce van? Since it shares most of its driveline with the HiLux and the Tacoma, it could eventually find its way into the American market.


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I casually follow the big rig industry, and everything to do with it. Even with cheap diesel we're seeing these days, the #1 cost of operating a truck is still the fuel. I kind-of doubt that even if Trump removes fuel economy requirements or reduction of sulfur emissions, that truck manufacturers will suddenly go back to making the less sophisticated engines of the past. Maybe the sulfur stuff, I could see them dumping SCR if it wasn't required, but every time I open Transport Topics or Heavy Duty Trucking I see lots of discussion of aeromods and gear ratios and transmissions and weight reduction. It looks like fuel efficiency is still important to fleets and owner-operators.
Removing fuel economy requirements or going back to high-sulphur fuel seems highly unlikely. Maybe an amendment to the emissions control ordinance to allow the removal of the DPF in order to avoid problems running higher percentages of biodiesel, and eventually the SCR which doesn't lead to any real improvement to the combustion process while the old-school water+methanol injection can be used to achieve lower temperatures with a leaner burn and also decreases the soot emissions.
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That's likely not going to happen any time soon.
EU whole heartedly believes in the AGW flying spaghetti monster. So they are anti CO2.
Our Ethanol Production Agency (EPA) is stuck in Carter era anti NOx mode.
The difference in a nut shell is EU thinks the solution to pollution is over all reduction.
The ethanol product agency believes the solution to pollution is some combination of substitution, dilution smoke and mirrors and holy water.

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Mandate E100 and do away with petrol subsidies.
Cold starting on pure ethanol is very difficult.
That's why E85 really becomes as low as E70 in some parts.
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I know.

Eliminating ethanol is not wise though.

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