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nubbzcummins 12-25-2009 09:30 PM

Requesting aero mod ideas (pickup: dodge ram 2500 4x4)
 
I have an 06 dodge ram 2500 4x4 raised 2.5" in the front to be leveled and running 325/55R22 tires. My frontal area is around 38 sq. ft. per my calcs. Looking for ideas for aero mods. Here are my ideas so far: Will eventually be going to a smaller tire size to help lower frontal area some. Thinking of a grill block of some sort but it seems to me that having a somewhat flat surface on the front would raise drag? Maybe a lower front air dam to keep air from going under truck but unshure on looks of this and effectiveness. Will probly block off fog light holes and spaces in front bumper. Also thinking of folding my mirrors back an placing a small mirror on each. With my mirrors being probly 1-1.5 sq. ft. each I could cut this in less than half folded back helping to reduce frontal area some. Give me some pointers along with effectiveness of mod. Thanks.

MetroMPG 12-26-2009 12:16 PM

As far as individual modifications go, adding a properly designed aerodynamic cap will yield the biggest drag reduction: 20%

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Texas Tech University Aero Lab publishes: pickup cab wing good for 6-per cent drag reduction,1/2-tonneau gives a 6-per cent drop, full tonneau gives 7-per cent, cab wing and 1/2 tonneau together nets a 17.5-per cent gain, and an "aeroshell" is good for a 20-per cent drag reduction. - source
You might want to peruse the data in the index of links on this page: http://ecomodder.com/forum/showthrea...ists-7118.html

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Originally Posted by nubbzcummins (Post 150013)
Thinking of a grill block of some sort but it seems to me that having a somewhat flat surface on the front would raise drag?

Diverting excess air flow that isn't needed for cooling improves drag because the path through the dirty engine bay and eventually underneath the truck is worse than sending it around the outside of the vehicle. The flat front doesn't matter so much, provided the transition to the sides and top have enough of a curve (which your truck does).

If you're going to block the grille, do it progressively, and monitor temperature like a hawk. Also, you have to pay attention to the intercooler if you have one. Some of the other diesel drivers may pipe up.

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Maybe a lower front air dam to keep air from going under truck but unshure on looks of this and effectiveness.
Big Dave swears by his. There is data in the link provided to support their effectiveness. As for looks, well that's your call!

[quote>Will probly block off fog light holes and spaces in front bumper. [/quote]

Coudn't hurt.

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Also thinking of folding my mirrors back an placing a small mirror on each. With my mirrors being probly 1-1.5 sq. ft. each I could cut this in less than half folded back helping to reduce frontal area some.
If you can do it without compromising safety, go for it. Rare are the mods that reduce both Cd and A.

Big Dave 12-26-2009 08:16 PM

Cleaning up the bed is the aerodynamic big enchilada for pickups.

A tonneau is good. A sloped bed cover is better.

Don't forget an air dam.

dwestmodesto 12-29-2009 11:20 PM

There is a guy on the CumminsForum who posted his new front airdam pics yesterday. He put a 10" airdam on the front, below the front fender. Claims to have raised mileage between 3 and 4mpg. I have the same truck, 2004 quadcab 2500 longbed 4wd. I am thinking of doing a similar mod, but with different materials. I was thinking that I could build a spacer between the bumper and the little oem airdam, extending it down about 6 more inches. I would also be able to vent my homebrew cold air intake there. I don't think the ideas of warm or hot air intake work with a turbodiesel. Heat is the enemy of that engine.
Good Luck,
Dave

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Originally Posted by nubbzcummins (Post 150013)
I have an 06 dodge ram 2500 4x4 raised 2.5" in the front to be leveled and running 325/55R22 tires. My frontal area is around 38 sq. ft. per my calcs. Looking for ideas for aero mods. Here are my ideas so far: Will eventually be going to a smaller tire size to help lower frontal area some. Thinking of a grill block of some sort but it seems to me that having a somewhat flat surface on the front would raise drag? Maybe a lower front air dam to keep air from going under truck but unshure on looks of this and effectiveness. Will probly block off fog light holes and spaces in front bumper. Also thinking of folding my mirrors back an placing a small mirror on each. With my mirrors being probly 1-1.5 sq. ft. each I could cut this in less than half folded back helping to reduce frontal area some. Give me some pointers along with effectiveness of mod. Thanks.


aerohead 12-30-2009 04:47 PM

Mopar parallel heat-exchangers
 
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Originally Posted by MetroMPG (Post 150075)
As far as individual modifications go, adding a properly designed aerodynamic cap will yield the biggest drag reduction: 20%

You might want to peruse the data in the index of links on this page: http://ecomodder.com/forum/showthrea...ists-7118.html



Diverting excess air flow that isn't needed for cooling improves drag because the path through the dirty engine bay and eventually underneath the truck is worse than sending it around the outside of the vehicle. The flat front doesn't matter so much, provided the transition to the sides and top have enough of a curve (which your truck does).

If you're going to block the grille, do it progressively, and monitor temperature like a hawk. Also, you have to pay attention to the intercooler if you have one. Some of the other diesel drivers may pipe up.

Big Dave swears by his. There is data in the link provided to support their effectiveness. As for looks, well that's your call!

[quote>Will probly block off fog light holes and spaces in front bumper.

Coudn't hurt.

If you can do it without compromising safety, go for it. Rare are the mods that reduce both Cd and A.[/QUOTE]

Be extra carefull blocking your Dodge.I believe the heat-exchangers are parallel ( side-by-side ) instead of serial as in most vehicles.
Dr. Korff would say that your inlet,while only 1/6 the height of your exchangers,would still have to be full-width,and the duct would have to be as "deep" as the full height of the cores.And completely air-tight.

dwestmodesto 12-30-2009 11:18 PM

Here is a link to the guy who just fabbed a airdam for his Dodge Cummins. 2-3 MPG increase - Dodge Cummins Diesel Forum
Enjoy,
Dave

nubbzcummins 12-31-2009 12:37 AM

I am going to try the "fastback" bed cover like big dave has on his truck since he made gains of around 3mpg with this mod. I will also be folding mirrors back for less frontal area and improved fe and less drag. Front lower air valence will come later.

dwestmodesto 12-31-2009 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by nubbzcummins (Post 150903)
I am going to try the "fastback" bed cover like big dave has on his truck since he made gains of around 3mpg with this mod. I will also be folding mirrors back for less frontal area and improved fe and less drag. Front lower air valence will come later.

I like the fastback bed design that one of the members was showing that would have an opening top. I think I would go to pick-and-pull and find a hatchback car with the right angle hatchback and a big window. With creativity, you could leave with the hatch, the hingemounts from the roof of the car, and the pin mechanism for locking it. Get a key made, and you would have easy locking access, and a rear window.


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