View Single Post
Old 06-16-2009, 01:54 AM   #14 (permalink)
Hugh Jim Bissel
EcoModding Lurker
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Dullest, Tax-us
Posts: 60

Connie - '00 Kawasaki Concours

Good Vibe-rations - '03 Pontiac Vibe GT
Thanks: 0
Thanked 5 Times in 1 Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by aerohead View Post
I think that as long as the rear edge falls along the template line,that the air will re-attach,forming a locked-vortex above,and the outer flow will skip over it.It won't be as effective as the ideal Kamm roofline but you'll have good rear vision and it will be relatively easy to fab.All the air below it will be in the turbulent wake.A second wing below,and also extending to the template line would create a second locked vortex and even lower drag.Ford proved this with the 1980s Merkur XR4T1 which sports their patented bi-wing spoiler.
What have you seen, or what are your thoughts about using multiple horizontal slats for some or all of a boattail, and the spacing between the slats? (the trailing end of each slat ending at the point where the surface of a boattail would be made)

One extreme of this would be basically a sideways "T" with the crossbar at the rear of the vehicle and the bottom of the "T" where a boattail would come to a point. This would basically be the 3 foot long spoiler Frank Lee mentioned. This might help, but doesn't seem like it would be a big improvement over the stock vehicle. The next step would be something along the lines of the split spoiler on the Merkur.

The opposite extreme is paper thin slats so close together they are touching: their ends would make the solid surface of a boattail.

Since there is a boundary layer it seems reasonable that you can have the slats separated slightly with no difference between it and a full boattail; then as the slats are separated farther (fewer slats used on the vehicle) the cd will start to increase; until there is just the one "slat" (the sideways "T").

This usage of slats would allow visibility through rear window, and allow taillights to be within the boattail instead of having to Kamm the last couple feet (to mount taillights and license plate).

What I'm wondering is what thoughts/experience do you have, or what have you come across in your readings and studies as to when increasing of slat spacing distance begins to have a detrimental effect?

That is to say, slats an inch or less apart (vertically) seem like they would be close enough not to give a penalty over a boattail. A foot or more apart, however, seems like it would have a substantial cd penalty over a solid bottail. So what would be the greatest distance that causes no effect, or more likely, if spacing distance vs drag is some sort of asymptotic graph (like an inverse exponential curve), at what range does the spacing begin to have a noticeable effect?

Another way to think about it instead of slats, is pixilation: if you're building a boattail with identical small cubes, how small do the cubes need to be to make a boattail with approximately the same effect as a smooth tail?

My guess would be around 2" or so, but that's not even an educated guess (an uneducated guess? ). I'm curious to hear others thoughts and if anyone has seen any research on this.

It seems like this could potentially be a good way to have a boattail / kammback without hindering rear vision or blocking taillights (and/or giving vertical surfaces where one could mount small taillights on the boattail without adding drag)

Looking forward to hearing y'alls thoughts.
  Reply With Quote