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Originally Posted by shovel

You know what offends the hell out of me? Not having the freedom to speak frankly. When we are afraid to "offend" anyone, we are LYING to each other. When I fail to call it how I see it, I am lying to everyone, now THAT is offensive.

Posting a picture of a wreck where nobody knows what happened as an argument is stupid. It doesn't mean anything, it doesn't prove anything, it doesn't indicate anything. I could post a picture of a prius in a wreck, does that make them unsafe?

Tjts has more posts than me, woo. His argument makes no sense and contains no substance. Posting a stupid irrelevant picture to make some sort of a point? Please. Are we here to learn from each other or just blow happy rainbows up each others' low emissions tailpipe?
- if it's the second one, you can keep this forum. I'm here to be serious about ecomodding and my posts prove it.

I'm not saying anything against you personally. I'm saying that you are doing exactly what you're disparaging him for in that previous post. You're giving your perspective of a situation that you can't possibly make sense of, and using it as an argument in your favor, which you even say in this post, "It doesn't mean anything, it doesn't prove anything, it doesn't indicate anything"...

We're (mostly) all pretty serious about why we're here... don't let one person's obvious mockery lead you from your goals. Try to keep civil, and you will be treated as such, is all I'm saying.

Try to look at all of the potential sides of what's going on before responding to it. It should have been pretty obvious that what was posted there was an attempt to elicit a less-than-thoughtful response from you (or others) (I don't like to use the word "Troll"), so why not just overlook it?