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Old 11-20-2009, 11:42 AM   #13 (permalink)
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Ok, now I could be wrong... but the 96 HX has a very expensive upper O2 sensor (wideband?) and I think what we are looking at is the lower O2 sensor. I'll know more for sure this weekend.
Yes both the civic vx and civic hx (honda's US federal lean burn cars) have the 5 wire wideband upper sensors to monitor the lean burn condition. The civic HX also has a standard narrow band 4 wire sensor after the cat (downstream) that really is only a OBDII requirement that monitors cat function.

I am wondering now why the D15b/d15d7 3 stage vtec engine does not have a wideband if it truly is a lean burn engine? Or maybe the wideband in the US cars only is there only to closely monitor the mix for emissions reasons? I know lean burn cars by nature have higher NOx output. I wonder if the widebands are to keep NOx in check (probably running on the edge of being legal) for US emissions regulations?

Sorry to hijack your thread. I really find this stuff interesting and am just trying to find a few answers.
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